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Corbyn's Elasticity

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Primrose65 Wed 28-Mar-18 21:23:27

A continuation of Momentum/Intertia/Magnetism.

Elastic? Plastic? Or at breaking point?

A thread for Corbyn lovers & haters

whitewave Wed 04-Apr-18 14:59:04

The Faily Mail also has an article next to the slagging off article that says the French should vote for the facist party headed by Penn. I trust the irony isn’t lost on its readers! On the other hand........

Grandad1943 Wed 04-Apr-18 15:05:12

I think in regard to many of the media attacks on Corbyn there was a better smell in the Sewage Works I attended on Friday.

Grandad1943 Wed 04-Apr-18 15:08:45

Much of the media have grossly overplayed their hand in their attacks on Corbyn in the last few days, and that is now "badly backfiring" against them.

Primrose65 Wed 04-Apr-18 15:09:18

I think the main readers on this thread seem to be you and Grandad, ww. grin

whitewave Wed 04-Apr-18 15:10:04

Exactly so. Two words

MAY ELECTIONS.

Tories have no ground troops to speak of and those they have are ancient relics, so they have to rely on the oh so willing msm(wonder what they’ve been promised) with its unuendo and lies, and non reporting any problems etc by the Tory party.

whitewave Wed 04-Apr-18 15:12:44

grandad the really sad thing is that it is democracy and truth which is the victim in all this.

Anniebach Wed 04-Apr-18 15:12:59

A prayer by Jewdas Seder end with

F**k the queen and especially f**k Prince phillip, burn down parliament . Full communism . Amen

Corbyn must has felt so comfy with this group

GracesGranMK2 Wed 04-Apr-18 15:14:45

The Daily Mail has a very interesting history re anti-Semitism. I'm afraid it doesn't surprise me in the least that they are lashing out at Jews. I wonder if those who read it with such joy actually know what it has stood from in the past.

GracesGranMK2 Wed 04-Apr-18 15:15:34

from for

Grandad1943 Wed 04-Apr-18 15:19:26

The daily mail also has an owner who resides in a tax haven and then gets his lackies to state his views on how we should live our lives here in Britain.

Grandad1943 Wed 04-Apr-18 15:20:58

Never gives an interview himself, just hides away with his tax free ill-gotten gains

whitewave Wed 04-Apr-18 15:29:09

Very friendly with May though who frequently dines with Dacre. Wonder what the true relationship is and what back rubbing is being done? Well I suppose the cancellation of the Leveson Enquiry for a start, and of course she has to deliver Brexit on a plate to Dacre.

Grandad1943 Wed 04-Apr-18 15:34:54

He and Murdoch held back justice for the Hillsborough victims for many years and are still trying.

whitewave Wed 04-Apr-18 15:50:37

Micheal Rosen of the Bear Hunt noted that

“The DM has gone to war against Jewdas. Of course this isn’t Antisemitism.
The Daily. Mails last great forey into Labour Leaders and Jews, the Daily Mail told us not to vote for Miliband because his dad was a Jewish traitor”

bmacca Wed 04-Apr-18 16:00:40

There has not been any increase in anti semitism in Labour since Corbyn became leader.
A survey done last year by the Institute for Jewish Policy Research found that, “Levels of antisemitism among those on the left-wing of the political spectrum, including the far-left, are indistinguishable from those found in the general population. Yet, all parts of those on the left of the political spectrum – including the ‘slightly left-of-centre,’ the ‘fairly left-wing’ and the ‘very left-wing’ – exhibit higher levels of anti-Israelism than average. The most antisemitic group on the political spectrum consists of those who identify as very right-wing”.

Secondly, a survey done by YouGov in 2017 for the Campaign against Antisemitism found that endorsing at least one antisemitic statement was much more prevalent among Conservative and UKIP members (40% and 39% respectively) than among Labour and Liberal members (32% and 30% respectively). By comparing results to the 2016 survey, YouGov also found that antisemitic attitudes have fallen significantly in the Labour Party in the two years sine Jeremy Corbyn became Leader

The JPR survey also shows that all parts of the left, from moderate to hard left, are more anti-Israel than other people. The Board and the Council, supporting Israeli policy to the hilt as they do, but knowing their arguments are weak, want to eviscerate the Labour Party’s willingness to criticise Israel.

The Board’s and the Council’s motives are well illustrated by their proposed agenda for meeting Jeremy Corbyn, also in their letter of 28 March. The agenda items are really demands, three of which, if accepted, would cede the Labour Party’s independence in dealing with allegations of antisemitism

Grandad1943 Wed 04-Apr-18 16:01:29

DISGUSTING Whitewave, just DISGUSTING.

It does demonstrate however that whoever the Labour party has as its leader or what level of left of centre stance they take up, they will never get the support of Murdock, Dacre and others unless as Campbell stated you sell all your principles to them.

And that Blair did. So, the Labour movement may as well go with Corbyn

nigglynellie Wed 04-Apr-18 16:03:01

Ralph Milliband was described as a 'Communist Marxist Traitor,' not a Jewish one by the Daily Mail or anyone else.

Grandad1943 Wed 04-Apr-18 16:04:19

Sorry that should have been to bmcca above.

Anniebach Wed 04-Apr-18 16:04:20

True niggly

Grandad1943 Wed 04-Apr-18 16:09:17

Still unfounded and unnessicary attacks on a relative of a Labour leader and for what reason "kickbacks" if the Tories get elected.

I expect someone got a Knighthood for that. LOL

whitewave Wed 04-Apr-18 16:12:18

Blimey bmcca there is no way Corbyn should agree to that!!

Stand firm Jeremy!!

nigglynellie Wed 04-Apr-18 16:15:52

Sorry to take the racist wind out of your sails Grandad!

whitewave Wed 04-Apr-18 16:20:20

You need to take that up with Michael Rosen niggly he wrote about it not grandad

Grandad1943 Wed 04-Apr-18 16:20:40

I agree bmcca, Corbyn should have nothing to do with the Board of Deputies. He should keep up a dialogue with groups outside their hard right stance.

Perhaps in the above he would encourage those other groups to more prominence in the Jewish community.

whitewave Wed 04-Apr-18 16:21:54

Mind you I don’t think you could argue that there was not a lot of dog whistle if not actual racism at that time with regards to Miliband.

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