Comrade Corbychev's Cock-Ups

Being endorsed by Nick Griffin isn’t something that anybody should want!

True lemon.

Grandad, you can try to divert the thread all you like with your references to JRM, but to be honest you seem to be desperately scraping the barrel and all you are doing is telling us you're not a Conservative voter - as if we didn't know that already.

How about defending one of your Labour comrades, the leader of the party - if you can? He needs all the help he can get.

From The New Statesman

The former leader of the British National Party, self-declared “lifelong white rights fighter” and all-round grotesque has-been Nick Griffin has found a new political project to funnel his bile into

The Labour Party

So, will Corbyn want to sit down with a cup of tea with the detestable Griffin too?

"In a tweet, he has threatened to vote Labour for the first time in his life, because somewhere along our bizarre political spectrum, Jeremy Corbyn’s reticence about condemning the Syrian president Bashar al-Assad for a chemical attack killing dozens of his own people has chimed with Griffin’s own worldview."

There is that word again "reticence", applied once more to Corbyn.

No one wants war, no one wants violence, but my vote goes to the politicians who will condemn foreign leaders using chemical weapons and stand up for the rights of people suffering, no matter where they are.

I do not claim to understand finance but "Grandad1943* says

"The Tory MP had said that Russia should be “hit financially” over the Skripal poisoning."

and then goes on to explain JRM is a shareholder in a Russian bank. Doesn't this mean that his own shareholding will be adversely affected?

Reply to Baggs Tue 10-Apr-18 18:57:45

I was following up on Day6's satire. She didn't quote exactly either. My 'paraphrasing' was a bit more accurate

I cringed when I,learned Griffin was turning to labour, yet at the beginning of the week I posted that Hope not Hate said there was not one candidate in the May elections from the BNP, I wondered wher they would go.

From the same NewStatesman article: "This stance comes from apparent fears about terrorism and immigration spreading to the west (though it really just sounds like xenophobia), whereas the Labour leader’s dovish approach, however controversial within his own party, is based on the devastating effects he believes western intervention can have on the Middle East."
Griffin's one tweet is hardly an endorsement given 99% of his views are nearer to right wing Tory.
Even Mrs May has said more evidence is needed in Syria

Will Corbyn be making a statement regarding Russia voting against an independent enquiry into the recent chemical attack in Syria. Instead Russia asked for an enquiry in which the results are reviewed by Russia for acceptance prior to making them public

statement or excuse

Oldwoman: That is an advance on Russia's previous attitude. At least the enquiry will take place. What happens to the report afterwards, who knows.

yggdrsil unfortunately the enquiry will not take place because none of the proposals were agreed and the Security Council is at deadlock

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Truelemon.

Grandad, you can try to divert the thread all you like with your references to JRM, but to be honest you seem to be desperately scraping the barrel and all you are doing is telling us you're not a Conservative voter - as if we didn't know that already.

How about defending one of your Labour comrades, the leader of the party - if you can? He needs all the help he can get.] End Quote

Day6, it most certainly appears that you are anxious in regard to any mention of the conservative party in this thread, but that is very understandable. After all, they have at least one of their MPs breaking international financial sanctions against Russia for no other reason than his own financial gain.

However, the above is typical of the Tories, money before everything (especially their own money) and to hell with everything else. The foregoing holds true even if that means turning a blind eye to growing numbers of people sleeping on our streets, family's evicted from their rented homes on twenty eight days notice, workers having to live on zero or very low hour contracts and many others having to survive in the gig economy.

Of course, the above is not about any party leader, it is about the core difference in the policies of the two parties. The above is why you Day6 and others on this thread do not want the Conservative party discussed.

However, when I am finished with work for the day later this afternoon/evening I shall be pointing out more shortfalls in the Conservative party and its members.

And I will post of the hypocrisy of Corbyn, I will be respecting the thread title

anniebach, will you or any other forum member demonstrate to me were in the title of this thread the name "Corbyn" is stated.

Being that it is not, the title leaves any subject open for discussion in this thread. Agreed

Now back to work, see you later. LOL

Not agreed , you do have long tea breaks

Grandad

"A thread about Corbyn"

Does that help?

Doubt it Primrose. Seems distracting this thread brings excitement but a thread titled 'Corbyn Our Saviour' would be soooo boring

Now there's a challenge Annie. I think you've just found the name for the next thread!

Grandad

"money before everything (especially their own money) and to hell with everything else. The foregoing holds true even if that means turning a blind eye to growing numbers of people sleeping on our streets, "

I assume that you're not aware of Lansman's property company that owned a homeless hostel in Victoria providing facilities for just over 180 people. They were evicted so that he could make a profit on the redevelopment.

I'm afraid you're describing exactly what senior members of the current Labour Party do. It's not even turning a blind eye, it's actively increasing the problem for personal profit.

Primrose I'm afraid you're describing exactly what senior members of the current Labour Party do. It's not even turning a blind eye, it's actively increasing the problem for personal profit.

I couldn't agree with you more. Though it isn't all of the New Labour lot, there are sufficient to make problems.
Which is just why Corbyn is getting such support from the grass roots, who want a different way of doing things, and who have read and understood the policies of the current Labour Party

I think Corbyn has got "to the grassroots" and that is his appeal. Thirty odd years ago, before New Labour was invented, I remember thinking that the top dogs in the Labour Party were out of touch with the grassroots and what grassroots people wanted from their involvement in politics.

Corbyn having been something of a rebellious grassroots back-bencher since the years when I was having that thought, has managed to keep in touch with the grassroots. That's his strength for his supporters—the grassroots ones anyhow—even if I wouldn't necessarily say the same for his parliamentary supporters.

Grandad - Day6, it most certainly appears that you are anxious in regard to any mention of the conservative party

Good grief Grandad, get a grip!
If you had any idea of my life's circumstances you'd appreciate that a political party is not something I am going to become 'anxious' about. I have far bigger worries and anxieties, trust me.

All MPs live fairly charmed and privileged lives. I have very little regard for any of them. I have no love for the present Labour Party, like many others, but my love for the Conservative party or any other is miniscule, bordering on non-existent. I'd rather have May leading the country than Corbychev, and that is about as far as it goes. When all is said and done we effect very little regarding the governance of our country and the actions of our MPs. Most don't stand up to deep scrutiny.

We are having a discussion on an internet forum for 'older' people. Do not presume to know how I feel about anything - and get a sense of proportion, please.

Grandad - However, when I am finished with work for the day later this afternoon/evening I shall be pointing out more shortfalls in the Conservative party and its members.

I really don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Have some lives really been reduced to this?

Internet pages, forum pages are like chip wrappers, aren't they? They vanish and all efforts are in vain really. We all indulge but I really wouldn't see political research into 'the enemy' as a worthwhile use of time, especially after a day at work. You really must have a burning desire to protect Corbychev.

And have a vested interest in the Labour Party too Grandad.

One wonders how posters managed to discuss politics before grandad recently joined to point things out to us

I’m waiting with baited breath for the next JRM denouncement.

lemongrove - to stop you getting short of breath JRM has admitted that he is less muscular than Walter Brown of the Beano