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Labour's plan for new Bank Holidays

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kittylester Mon 23-Apr-18 17:18:58

Whilst I agree that there are not enough Bank Holidays (National Holidays?) this plan to make the 4 National Patron Saints' Days Bank holidays seems a bit daft considering that three of the Saints are in the first part of the year when we also have Easter and the Spring Bank holiday. I think we need some in the autumn and maybe February.

What does anyone else think?

Jalima1108 Tue 24-Apr-18 15:42:20

Harvest? Not really appropriate perhaps for our urban society
I've been thinking about that, mostlyharmless and wondering if that could be a good idea - encouraging urban children to visit the countryside on that BH, although harvest would be over by the end of October.

mostlyharmless Tue 24-Apr-18 15:51:50

I like your World Peace Day idea Jalima.

GillT57 Tue 24-Apr-18 15:53:09

All sung to the sound of a thumping piano, a la Chas n Dave, eh Jalima?

I do hope that a young, soon to be disillusioned keen researcher from the Labour Party reads this thread, do you think they will realise that we do not wish to be patronised/treated like fools/taken back to the 1950s\?

Anniebach Tue 24-Apr-18 15:53:31

I will not celebrate St.Davids Day in October, no daffodils . children can't trot off to school in national costume for an Eisteddfod in October , the schools would be closed

Jalima1108 Tue 24-Apr-18 15:56:51

It was bad enough this year Anniebach when the school Eisteddfod had to be postponed because of the snow - they had to dress up a week later.

I'm not sure how Chas is (he has been ill) but we could invite them both along on our charabanc outing.

mostlyharmless Tue 24-Apr-18 16:00:21

I can’t see why Wales couldn’t have a Bank Holiday for St David’s day on March 1st anyway Annie, as Scotland and Northern Ireland already have their national Saints days off. Probably a devolved Powers decision?
Not sure whether England would even want St George’s Day as a holiday. Call it Shakespeare’s birthday (the same day) and you’ve got a whole new tourist industry! Little Shakespeare performances everywhere - lovely.

mostlyharmless Tue 24-Apr-18 16:02:11

Yes my granddaughters celebrated St David’s Day a week late this year too.

paddyann Tue 24-Apr-18 16:07:58

Scotland doesn't have a bank holiday for St Andrews day ,never has .There were plans to make it a holiday but nothing came of them .We do however have a holiday in September ,instead of your August bank holiday .In recent years we've had a winter festival from St Andrews day at the end of November until 25th January ,Burns night .Then in the west we have our Celtic Connection music festival which carries through to February .But no official bank holidays included

M0nica Tue 24-Apr-18 16:09:18

I think a Harvest bank holiday would be an excellent idea for a country with a mainly urban population.

Survey after survey shows how unaware people are about where there food comes from and how they cannot recognise many foodstuffs they eat when shown them in their raw or unprocessed state.

If it was made a celebration of food we eat, with Food festivals in local parks and museums and libraries running displays on the rural past of every city suburb, allottments having open days and the NT running food themed events.

It could contribute to the fight against obesity. Showing food to be fun and fabulous, home cooking easy and eating being something to celebrate rather than that dull, dreary, reading signposts on packets and keeping to 'daily limits' dictated by humourless faceless bureaucrats.

mostlyharmless Tue 24-Apr-18 16:26:18

Sorry paddy how confusing!
When is a bank holiday a bank holiday!

St Andrew's Day was declared a bank holiday by the Scottish Parliament in 2006, although banks are not required to close if they do not wish to. If 30 November occurs on a weekend, the bank holiday is moved to the following Monday.
Employers are not required by law to give employees a holiday on the St Andrew's Day bank holiday

Jalima1108 Tue 24-Apr-18 16:26:41

Should we have a vote then tell the politicians what we want - instead of them thinking they know what we would like?

I vote for a Harvest Bank Holiday, perhaps during mid-October.

Hm999 Tue 24-Apr-18 16:52:14

30 November (Andrew) makes a great Christmas shopping day! But what happens when Scotland leaves the Union?

And not all on a Monday please, it really fouls schools up.

newnanny Tue 24-Apr-18 17:12:55

I don't think we need more holidays, kids off school when some parents will have to work on bank holidays. We should be trying to be more productive as a nation to compete after Brexit not handing out more holidays. Corbyn is off his rocker.

Jalima1108 Tue 24-Apr-18 20:01:28

It could be picked to coincide with the autumn half term - except that half-term varies according to where you live in the UK.

gillybob Tue 24-Apr-18 21:13:45

Maybe what he really means is another bank holiday for his public sector workers (all he cares about if the truth be told) then at least they won’t have to look for additional childcare. Sod those who work for the greedy fat cat private businesses.

Sleepygran Wed 25-Apr-18 01:07:02

Lots of anti labour feeling here!
My dh only got 15 days annual leave and bank holidays.
When the kids were at home we really struggled to get a holiday and help out aged parents.
Any extra annual leave would have been brilliant.Many now are on low hours contracts so employers only pay pro rata a
holiday pay,those on 0 hours contracts get No holiday pay.At all.
Many in jobs where they work shifts and bh as routine it's written into the contract,no extra pay for Bhols.
Many now work for contract companies who seem to set their own rules.

gillybob Wed 25-Apr-18 07:17:09

I think you’ll find that conditions have changed quite a bit since then sleepygran.
Minimum holiday entitlement is now 20 days plus bank holidays . Temp workers enjoy the same rights as those with permanent contract .

I have somone who works ( by choice) 6 hours per week . Are you suggesting I should pay a full 28 days holiday pay ? (more than half a years work ?)

Situpstraight Wed 25-Apr-18 07:24:32

sleepygran only anti labour because of the party that has suggested it. My feeling would be the same whichever party wanted 4 extra Bank Holidays.

Sleepygran Wed 25-Apr-18 10:04:35

Gillybob,my husband only finished work in January this year,and these were his terms when he left. He worked for a contract company.
If you were lucky enough to work for a government organisation you got the right Terms and conditions. Contract companies seem to do what the like.

Sleepygran Wed 25-Apr-18 10:07:29

Also I do understand pro rata holidays but I know many on 0 hours contracts who work more than 16 hours per week but they still get 0 hours holiday pay.

Jalima1108 Wed 25-Apr-18 23:04:35

Lots of anti labour feeling here!
Only under the present leadership which is floundering Sleepygran!

gillybob Wed 25-Apr-18 23:12:05

That’s complete rubbish sleepygran we are a very small (micro) business and the 20 days plus bank holidays have been in place for several years now.

gillybob Wed 25-Apr-18 23:13:35

Sorry posted too soon and no disrespect intended to you, but if this was the case your DH’s employers were breaking the law.

Jalima1108 Wed 25-Apr-18 23:32:46

Apologies if you meant labour as in workforce and not 'Labour' as in Labour party Sleepygran.

However, I think that many of us have been part of the labour force during our working lives and are not therefore anti labour

haporthrosie Wed 25-Apr-18 23:50:16

'Collecting stones and winkle shells to take back home to Nan' sunshine

Knotted hankie's on me loaf and I'm ready!

Really like ideas of Harvest and Peace. MOnica's got a good point about food stupidity (she said, having just polished off a fish finger sarnie. But at least I know a cod piece from a bloater!)

I've never had the nerve to send them, but ages ago I wrote some song lyrics intended for Chas and Dave. blush As if they need anyone to write for them!

Off we go, singing roll or bowl a ball a new holiday ...