Conservatives and Pendle Council

And with Corbyn supporters such as here the Labour Party will die and the communist party will take it’s place. LOL.

No one has posted anything about suporting Corbyn Annie simply a question about why Theresa May is not held responsible for the racism in the Conservative party when Corbyn has been held responsible fo any perceived anti-semitism in the Labour Party. One could ask why those who have posted so often how much they support the Labour Party do not wish to condemn the Conservatives for this racist outrage. Could it be that they are not what they profess to be?

i did’t read the whole post either trisher

Grandad.....you and your LOLS
I didn’t know I had any ’folksy wisdom’ btw
I suspect women were busier this BH weekend generally than men, though good to see that you are a ‘new man’ and do 50/50 of cooking, baking and general household chores and childminding.

To others on the thread, I meant by a ‘one off’ that it seems
That Rosemary Carroll ( Conservative Councillor) has not committed any other racist acts/posts/tweets.
I have already said that in my view she should never have been reinstated, but it looks as if each local council has the power of suspending/firing/ reinstating etc and that it always is considered a local matter ( to be sorted out at that level.)This is no doubt true of all the political parties.

niggly....good post.

Oh I see.Anti-semitism in the Labour party blame it on Corbyn.Racism in the Conservative party blame it on the locals!!!

trisher I have no idea of the workings of councils, but have read that local matters like this are dealt with at local level, whether we all like it or not.

But if the local level gets it wrong higher levels can state publicly that the national party has been brought into disrepute. This is the step we are all waiting for.

Quote lemongrove [ Grandad.....you and your LOLS
I didn’t know I had any ’folksy wisdom’ btw
I suspect women were busier this BH weekend generally than men, though good to see that you are a ‘new man’ and do 50/50 of cooking, baking and general household chores and childminding.] End Quote

Lemongrove, I believe that with each post in this thread you demonstrate just how far behind the times you have become.

My wife and I will have been married fifty years this year and in that we always equally shared the chores brought about in the joys of bringing up our three children over the years. So, yes I have always shared the household duties which even now include much of the cooking (because I thoroughly enjoy it) and looking after our four grandchildren.

When i started our business in 2003 we equally shared the work involved in building that. Therefore, many working men and women have always shared all chores with their wives/partners and those circumstances in these times grow with each generation.

However, as we have seen with this Pendle councillor there would seem to be many in the Conservative party that are unable to adapt to a changing Britain. Perhaps that is due to the fact that only seventy thousand remain as members of the party with an average age of seventy one.

In the above undoubtedly it is difficult to accept change, especially when no "new blood" is entering the party, therefore the same old stagnant beliefs and thoughts still endure.

Trisher wrote
"One could ask why those who have posted so often how much they support the Labour Party do not wish to condemn the Conservatives for this racist outrage. "
It was a disgusting thing to say.
I still support the Labour party, and have said a few times in the past that I think there are racists in both main parties. Probably in the minor ones too. So don't see the need to keep repeating.
I support the view that it's part of human nature.
And it's part of media propaganda to keep harping on as if it exists only in the LP.

winter white, when a Labour MP was threatened with deselection for attending the anti semitism demo at Westminster I did say HQ should speak out, it was said here what happens in a LP as nothing to do with those at the top.

Grandad all your posts to wind me up simply do not work. Carry on if you like in being personal in your posts, but you will find you are the only one on this thread who is doing it.Thankfully.

What Labour MPs must realize would be that they must stay in thinking with their constituency party. Gone are the days when Tony Blair and his cohorts parachuted candidates for election into constituencies and the local party had little or no say in their selection or de-selection.

Therefore, MPs have to consult and persuade their constituency party in regard to their thinking and in my view that's the way it should be.

So, should an MP become at odds with their constituency parties thinking and policies they are quite likely to be de-selected. Again, perfectly correct in my view.

Work with them as a team and there will be no problems.

Therefore did this MP consult with the constituency party in regards to their thinking on attending a demonstration against his/her and their own party. Perhaps if that consultation had taken place, then they may well have agreed that he/she should attend. However, if he/she did not consult we will never know the foregoing and obviously in this case the Constituency party may well have become upset that they were not consoled in this matter.

Apologies should be consulted above not consoled

Exactly Fennel..... and posters can’t keep coming on here time and time again to say the same thing.We all think it was a truly awful post by that woman, even if it wasn’t her own words, she sent it on, just as bad.
There are racists in all walks of life.

So posters can't come on this thread and repeat the same things over and over again but it is fine for them to do so on the Corbyn threads?

Welll I’ve doubled checked on FB - to share a post you click on share and then a menu with 4 choices comes up and you have to click again to share. There is no delete choice

Yes, it is quite a process to share something as you say Marye - but you can hide a post on your own page quite easily and at the same time request not to see any more posts from that source.

Posters may do as they please Ilovecheese What I actually meant was several posters including myself have already said how awful that so called joke was and that this councillor should not have been reinstated.I think I have said it at least three times.Am interested in other views but nobody has disagreed , thankfully, so there isn’t a lot more to say on it really.

Quote lemongrove [ Grandadall your posts to wind me up simply do not work. Carry on if you like in being personal in your posts, but you will find you are the only one on this thread who is doing it.Thankfully.] End Quote

Lemongrove, if you look back at your own posts in this thread you will see that it was you who fist became "personal" with myself. Along with the foregoing, if you look back at your posts over any number of weeks you will see that trait repeated by you with a number of forum members.

The above was especially prevalent when Whitewave began a thread in regard to "news from the Opposition" and you lemon entered that thread taunting him in regard to that thread and why he was not posting in the Corbyn thread. You stated "do you not like what is said over there" or words to that effect.

So Lemongrove, do not post on forum members making personal comments to yourself if you insist on making personal comments to them.

We are having a few days away in Devon at a hotel, and I am dictating this from a shady spot in the garden using my phone on LTE connection. Any posting only takes a few, minutes with voice recognition (not always perfect but acceptable) and I would have believed that those which felt so strongly on racism in the party they support would have found the same commitment in this disgusting matter in regard to the Conservatives.

Again, I wonder why.


Well, have only just looked on GN today after a few days doing other things - over the Bank Holiday weekend.

Is there something I'm missing here - did the voters of Pendle vote this woman in as an Independent? Then, in order to gain control of the Council, the Conservatives re-admitted her into the party?

If that is the case - why on earth did the voters in Pendle vote for her? What is wrong with them?

Grandad, you seem very well informed about the domestic arrangements in homes other than yours. Of course it's very commendable to share household/parenting duties equally, but I really don't think that you can generalise about households of which you have absolutely no knowledge! Even in these days of equality I know for a fact that still a lot of woman are automatically responsible for much of the day to day running of the home, not every home houses a modern man! Undoubtedly a lot of woman would over this bank holiday, have been busy with family and friends and not have had the time or perhaps the inclination to be on GN. Deliberately winding people up with sarcasm is pretty pathetic really, and doesn't add anything to any discussion.

If that is the case - why on earth did the voters in Pendle vote for her? What is wrong with them?

One might extrapolate from that that the people who voted for her are also racist and approved of her 'joke'. As they are likely to have been tory voters who have stayed 'loyal' to her despite her suspension, perhaps it indicates that racism is endemic in the tory party...

Or that Pendle is an enclave of racism?

Well said nigglynellie
Some people even take a break of several weeks!

and not all of us have those complicated phones .....

I always thought whitewave was female , I was wrong it seems