Unintended consequences of brexit

You are just so so clever Allygran1, you could perhaps write a Gransnet version for all of us dim wits that you so obviously perceive me/ us to be .

Grandiloquence is a perfect descriptive word.

If we on here are an example of human interaction & behaviour, then I really don’t hold out much hope for Brexit negotiations ,it will all be nah nah ne nah nah, strutting peacocks comes to mind!

Bridgeit, you might like this quote from "The House at Pooh Corner":
“Owl explained about the Necessary Dorsal Muscles. He had explained this to Pooh and Christopher Robin once before and had been waiting for a chance to do it again, because it is a thing you can easily explain twice before anybody knows what you are talking about.”
― A.A. Milne, The House at Pooh Corner

Pathetic

Thank you Ag for the Pooh quotes. It's made me go and dig out my very old copies that belonged to my mother and her two brothers, now all sadly dead. How we've all loved these books from 'them', to my 11 year old grandson.
I think Ag puts everything very clearly and concisely in language that is simple to understand and certainly better than I ever could. So why the sarcasm Bridgeit? Again, thankyou Ag1

Bridgeit......relax!

Thanks nigglynelie , you have made me laugh, Sarcasam you say really where did you come across that, surely not from me , I’m merely being pedantic .Now why don’t you just all get on with your pontificateing , I do so love that word but not the behaviour.

More Sarcasam Allygran1,it really doesn’t become you ,but it so easily could become you !

POGS said " And we, and all the other countries, have always had the power to make our own laws within our countries . It is known as 'subsidiarity'. EU Law only comes into play when more than one country is involved".
I keep hearing the argument you put forward such as 'We have always had the power to make ourlaws' and for 2 years I have asked in that case what are:-
EU Regulations, EU Directives, Court of Justice of the European Union in Luxembourg, Charter of Fundamental Rights, European Commmuniuties Act 1972, Primary Law,
Secondary Law, Supplementary Law
Yes we can and do make some of our own laws but the EU is a dominant partner that does not allow sovereign nations to make / decide their governance in it's entirety, hence sovereignty is somewhat of a term but not a full bloiwn practice.
What do those who keep saying " We, and all the other countries, have always had the power to make our own laws " think the Repeal Bill

All those laws etc you mention are ways of making sure dealings between different countries in the EU can be determined, despite the different laws within each country.
The Repeal Bill is a way of taking on board all the EU legislation that we mostly already have in all sorts of different places in our own legal systems and contracts. The intention is to get rid of it bit by bit and rewrite it. Thus making loads of work for Parliament so there isn't time for Welfare reforms.
The Govt can't be seen to change its message of the 'bullying EU', by admitting how much our economy has benefited from membership, and how much worse off we will be after next March.

Your welcome nigglynellie. Your right Winnie the Pooh books bring back, in most cases, happy memories of people, and times, long gone. I am so pleased that Fennel used a Winnie the Pooh quote in her post to me, it's opened up such happy memories, not to mention a re-read time.

It is scorching hot here, not sure where everyone else is, but too hot for me at least to be too serious. Big thanks to Fennel for the A.A Milne reminder.

Sorry to interrupt the thread. I will join in when it is a little cooler.

Bridgeit, you seem so worked up, my comment was from genuine concern not sarcasm.

‘You can fool some of the people some of the time,but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time ,

Such an apt saying methinks,

Bridgeit, you seem so angry today. It's only Gransnet. Step back and check out the real world around you.

More Sarcasam Allyg, your sentiment is as see through as a new pane of glass. Please do not insult the intelligence you don’t think I’ve got.

Sorry folks , perhaps this is one of the unintended consequences of Brexit,?

No point in this Bridgeit, your clearly on a different wavelength. Nothing can be said to make you feel better, so I am not going to try anymore today.

Just one thing Bridgeit. You appear throughout the last few post's to think that I do not consider you intelligent. Where have you got that from? I do not think anything about you, because I do not know you. My only knowledge of you is through your post, your words, your responses. I simply respond to your post with as much information and my own views as possible to contribute to the overall conversation. When needed I will defend myself as politely as I can, I will as you know not be bullied, nor will I be treated with disrespect without speaking up. But, today, your responses have been OTT, against me, and as far as I am concerned I have not even posted you to trigger your initial and continued aggression today.
I can only assume something else is going on, and let's leave it at that. .

Just reading the title of this thread again, made me think again about how kamikaze it was to put the vote to the people with so little factual information ,metaphorically it’s like being asked to jump off the white cliffs of Dover & hope that you can still swim !

Let’s hope it remains very hot for a long time, then ...

Better keep the home fires burning Jura2,

Too true Bridgeit. It’s too complex an issue for people to understand fully (as allyg shows us daily).
Trade deals, customs unions, regulatory alignment, single market, WTO rules, EU, max fac borders, ECHR, ECJ, ...... I could go on.
We are going to end up worse off than before, that is one thing that is clear. No new “deal” will be as beneficial as the one that has been rejected by the referendum.

These threads on GN are sad beyond belief, the reason why I kept away for such a long time. And it illustrates so well how drastically the country is divided. It is like a civil war of words... and to be honest, I don’t think the country will be able to get over it for a VERY long time, probably not for our generation.

Bridgeit, don’t worry about the cliffs of Dover, our Vera will be there to catch us all with one of her songs ...

Exactly,Mostlyharmless, such alife changing choice should never have been cast with so little detail. Imo it was an emotional protest vote. I still think we should vote again when we know at least some facts , figures details & effects .