Jacob Rees-Mogg Moves For Conservative Party Leadership.

But I don't expect JRM supporters to see my side of things any more than I can see theirs.
I'm not a JRM supporter nor am I a JC supporter.

Not being a JC supporter does not mean that I would support JRM and vice versa.

Anyone who may think that must see things in black and white and not notice the myriad shades of grey in between.

re JC - as a sideline we were amused to hear a caller on LBC saying that he wasn't satisfied with JC. Why? "He's not far enough left for me."
Then the caller gave a few examples of the changes he wanted made, as an extreme left supporter.

nigglynellie, in response to your post at 16:09 today, the allegations against Jacob Rees-Mogg are that his company has continued to invest their clients funds into a Russian bank after the airliner was brought down and the internationally agreed sanctions were imposed.

JRM has stated that none of his own money is directly invested in the Russian Bank, but he does accrue a substantial amount of money made by way of the charges his company imposes on clients for making those investments on their behalf.

His company is still investing clients funds in that bank even today.

Jalima1108, I pasted media links to the the allegations of JRM involvement in sanctions breaking I believe in this thread a few days ago. In the office at the moment (not doing much at moment) but that could change at any moment depending on certain events which we are waiting to hear of.

So, unfortunately on this occasion a self search will be required, but there is plenty of information out there if you Google it

I still think that it is a disingenuous statement - inferring that he has profited directly from that atrocity.

Well, Jalima1108, if you look at the media reports you will see that there is very strong evidence that he has benefited from the atrocity. JRM himslf did not deny involvement on the Andrew Marr program on Sunday. It was then he stated, none of his own money was invested in the bank.

However, Andrew Marr pointed out to him that he benefited from charges made to clients for investing their funds in the bank, to which he made no comment.

Oh come on Grandad JRM is the new darling of a certain group on GN. He can do NO wrong and you are being very very mean suggesting he should take responsibility for anything. Please stop criticising because you know how much I want him to be the new leader. Pretty please

So if the British army brought down a foreign plane full of civilians, anyone investing money with the Bank of England and other British banks would be to blame? Is that how it works or have I misunderstood something?

I don’t think that analogy quite works Baggs

Well let us hope that they make him leader maryeliza54, we will have no shortage of ammunition to throw at him come any election.

The sanctions scandal is only the tip of the iceberg from what I have read. Could make JC look like a saint in any campaign.

Just take a look at JRMs freinds and Associates. Quite some characters in that lot.

Jacob Tres Smug no no no

He is the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing

He is my only hope for a brighter future ???????
Come on the Mogg

Yes, Moggy for Tory Leader, bring it on.

Moggy Moggy Moggy oy oy oy

??????

Forelock tuggers are alive and well

maryeliza that is beyond the pale

Taking a Cornish (some would say Welsh) chant and misusing it in that way

Moggy oy Moggy oy Moggy Moggy Moggy oy oy oy

So if the British army brought down a foreign plane full of civilians, anyone investing money with the Bank of England and other British banks would be to blame? Is that how it works or have I misunderstood something?
That is according to Grandad

Yes, I am still puzzling over the allegation Baggs.

Quite simplly do you condemn JRM for gaining financially from the Ukrainian airliner attack ?????
That accusation against a Member of Parliament on an open forum is quite astonishing and I am surprised that GNHQ has not deleted it as potentially libellous.

Have you checked exactly where your pension, if you have one, is invested Grandad?
I hope it is all in ethical funds and not in any country of which you may disapprove.

Expect unions have their own bank and all monies is invested in fair trade companies, like the third Mrs Corbyn’s. Company

Quote Jalima1108[ So if the British army brought down a foreign plane full of civilians, anyone investing money with the Bank of England and other British banks would be to blame? Is that how it works or have I misunderstood something?
That is according toGrandad] End Quote

Janina, please direct me to where I have stated or agreed with your above posting in this thread, because as I feel you know that is not what I have done, or the way it works.

As I have already stated many investors do not know where their investments are located. However, that is not the allegations being levelled at Jacob Rees mogg. The foregoing pertains that his investment company has placed clients funds in a Russian bank, which is subject to internationally agreed sanctions.

JRM has stated that none of his own personal money is subject to investment in that bank. However, it has been pointed out to JRM any number of times in media interviews (and on the Andrew Marr program Sunday) that he makes financial gain from the charges his company levies on investors for lodging their funds in that bank and other Russian investments. JRM has not denied that is indeed the case.

Therefore, as the internationally agreed sanctions were brought in as a result of the missile attack on an airliner over Ukraine in which all on board perished, it can be deduced that Jacob Rees-Mogg is gaining financially from that attack as the bank in particular is paying higher returns to investors because of the sanctions.

As for statements on this forum being libellous, in regards to what has been stated about Jeremy Corbyn GNHQ would have to take down two thirds of the oats on this section of the forum to put correct that anomaly, I feel

Apologies should be posts above not oats.

I am quoting another poster Grandad, something which you don't seem to have got the hang of yet.

If you use these ^^ around another poster's words, it will come up in italics and denote that you are quoting someone else.

Anniebach, in regards to your above post at 19:47 today, then yes the trade Unions and all the wider Labour movement including the Labour party do own their own bank known as Trust Unity Bank.

I am astonished anniebach that as having fifty year membership of the labour party you are not aware of that fact.

Details of the banks operations can be found by following this link
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_Trust_Bank

*JRM has stated that none of his own personal money is subject to investment in that bank. However, it has been pointed out to JRM any number of times in media interviews (and on the Andrew Marr program Sunday) that he makes financial gain from the charges his company levies on investors for lodging their funds in that bank and other Russian investments. JRM has not denied that is indeed the case.

Therefore, as the internationally agreed sanctions were brought in as a result of the missile attack on an airliner over Ukraine in which all on board perished, it can be deduced that Jacob Rees-Mogg is gaining financially from that attack as the bank in particular is paying higher returns to investors because of the sanctions.*

Thank you for that explanation, grandad. Next question, if I may: when was JRM's company's link to the bank in question (which bank is it, btw?) made? Is that known? And when were the investments made by 'customers' of JRM? Did any of it happen before the plane crash?

Just by the way, I did hear that JRM is not managing the company while he is an MP because it would be a clash of interests.