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Jacob Rees-Mogg Moves For Conservative Party Leadership.

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Grandad1943 Wed 23-May-18 17:49:55

With an open attack on Theresa Mays handling of the Brexit negotiations many in the media believe that Jacob Rees-Mogg has made his first open move in a bid to become Conservative party leader and Britain's next Prime Minister.

Rees-Mogg in yet another of his ongoing interviews with the media lambasted "weak" Theresa May for preparing the UK for "Brexit failure". Rees-Mogg stated that with The British negotiators going into each set of negotiations with an attitude of "we will kowtow before you, Mr Barnier in every way you possible throughout these talks" there is no hope of success for the UK. The foregoing are undoubtedly harsh words indeed even from an arch hard line Brexitier, but many believe that there is far more to Rees-Moggs words than just Brexit.

It may well be that this hard line right wing politician has witnessed the way that Jeremy Corbyn has moved the Labour party to the left and now feels he could carry out the same in the Conservative party with the exception of that move being in the opposite direction in regards to political ground.

Evidence to the above can be seen in Rees-Moggs attack on Scottish Conservative Leader Ruth Davison, for in the same interview he stated that Davison should not be allowed to marry her longtime same sex partner as planned. However, same sex marriage legislation was put before parliament and passed in 2013 under the David Cameron coalition government.

In making the above comment Rees-Mogg is undoubtedly looking to damage Ruth Davison, who also is seen as a possible next leader of the Conservative party. That stated, it is also being seen as a move against centre ground Concervatives in parliament.

In the above can be seen shades of Momentum's original moves against centre Blairite MPs in the Labour party.

paddyann Mon 04-Jun-18 13:21:50

never say never Jalima1108 I remember being told Mrs May would NEVER be PM and lo and behold ...there she is !!

Jalima1108 Mon 04-Jun-18 13:27:51

We're truly doomed then paddyann grin - an old, backward-facing Leader of the LP, an old rebel, and a young throwback to the 1800s.
And as for the Lib Dems, they can't seem to find anyone apart from good old Vince age 75.

The Future Looks Bright

varian Mon 04-Jun-18 13:57:43

Anyne who still thinks private enterprise is illegal in China is worfully out of date anniebach

China's telecom manufacturer Huawei Technologies Co Ltd ranked top among the country's private enterprise with 521.57 billion yuan ($79 billion) in revenue in 2016, according to a list released on Aug 24.

Suning Holdings Group and Shandong Weiqiao Pioneering Group Co Ltd ranked second and third respectively.

The list, called China Top 500 Private Enterprises 2017, was released by the All-China Federation of Industry and Commerce.

www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017top10/2017-09/06/content_31618619.htm

Anniebach Mon 04-Jun-18 14:00:34

I am aware that China has moved forward regards private enterprise . And the rest ?

nigglynellie Mon 04-Jun-18 14:01:51

Yes, but it has state approval as with everything in China! Demonstrations are allowed, but again with state approval, same with religion or anything else you can think of which is hardly democracy as we know it !!

Iam64 Mon 04-Jun-18 14:15:47

Artists in China are often imprisoned if their work upsets the government.

Jalima1108 Mon 04-Jun-18 15:43:03

HONG KONG — A Hong Kong-based bookseller who was secretly detained in China has been taken away by Chinese authorities again after being released into house arrest last October, his daughter said Monday.
(23rd January 2018)
Gui Minhai, a Chinese-born Swedish national, ran a Hong Kong publishing company specializing in gossipy tales about high-level Chinese politics when he disappeared from his Thai holiday home about two years ago. He was believed to have been spirited away by Chinese security agents to mainland China, where he later turned up in police custody.
The case reinforced rising fears that Beijing was eroding rule of law in Hong Kong, a semiautonomous Chinese city that is promised civil liberties like freedom of speech until 2047. The books the group sold at their Causeway Bay Bookshop were popular with visitors from mainland China, where such titles were banned.

trisher Mon 04-Jun-18 15:53:27

Artists in Britain often have their work destroyed if it is considered offensive by some.

nigglynellie Mon 04-Jun-18 16:14:44

I don't think you can compare western democracies to China trisher how ever hard you try!! Try a peaceful demonstration, or practising religion, or watching a film disapproved of by the leader, spitting image?!! I don't think so!! Referring Xi Jinping as the equivalent of Maybot, would probably get you a prison sentence!!

trisher Mon 04-Jun-18 16:19:33

I didn't do any of those things niggly I simply posted that the destruction of art is more widespread than people might think.

Anniebach Mon 04-Jun-18 16:27:18

Which artists have had their work destroyed Trisha and which art gallery were they displayed ?

sunseeker Mon 04-Jun-18 16:27:47

As far as I am aware the UK government has not ordered the destruction of any artwork. There have been cases when members of the public have objected to artwork but that is not the same thing.

Anniebach Mon 04-Jun-18 16:31:52

Unless Trisha was referring to that art work mocking Jews, the artist certainly wasn’t imprisoned

MawBroon Mon 04-Jun-18 17:01:25

trisher Mon 04-Jun-18 15:53:27
Artists in Britain often have their work destroyed if it is considered offensive by some

Would you care to back that up with some hard facts, Trisher?.

maryeliza54 Mon 04-Jun-18 17:09:00

www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-britain/exhibition/art-under-attack-histories-british-iconoclasm

Well this will do for starters

Jalima1108 Mon 04-Jun-18 17:11:12

I suppose Henry VIII enjoyed his bouts of destruction which continued during the 150 or so years of the Reformation - does that count? And Oliver Cromwell flogged off much of Charles I's art collection at bargain prices.

Jalima1108 Mon 04-Jun-18 17:12:10

X post maryeliza

I did think that trisher meant now, but perhaps not.

maryeliza54 Mon 04-Jun-18 17:13:55

You know sometimes people should google before they ask a question to which they think they know the answer and so take a quick sarky pot shot at someone.

maryeliza54 Mon 04-Jun-18 17:14:49

She didn’t specify but that doesn’t stop people having a potshot at her

Grandad1943 Mon 04-Jun-18 17:19:01

I see that Sajid Javidis now changing the Conservative immigration policy without as much as a "by your leave" to Theresa May.

I am now beginning to have some sympathy for Theresa as she looks so isolated as her government continues to fall apart around her.

However, the implications for Britain in the above could not be worse, as the Brexit negotiations seem to be completely stalled on the UK side. In that, having an unstable British government at this point in time does not bode well for anyone residing in this country.

Certainly looks like a another contender throwing his hat into the ring to be a Conservative party leader

maryeliza54 Mon 04-Jun-18 17:25:47

Oh yes SJ threw his hat into the ring a while ago.

Jalima1108 Mon 04-Jun-18 17:27:47

He needs a bit more experience as Home Secretary then could be a contender.

MawBroon Mon 04-Jun-18 17:29:04

I was actually talking about the present day Trisher the link maryeliza cites is ironically an exhibition devoted to iconoclasm of past centuries.

God knows there is enough questionable art about but we don’t go imprisoning the artist or shooting them as in the Charlie Hebdo case.

Jalima1108 Mon 04-Jun-18 17:30:00

She didn’t specify but that doesn’t stop people having a potshot at her
I wasn't taking a potshot and I don't think anyone else was - we have often been asked for 'evidence' on GN as if 'opinion' is not good enough.

trisher do you have any evidence please, as I have not heard of this being Government policy as it is in some other countries.

lemongrove Mon 04-Jun-18 17:30:48

Since it was T May who promoted Saviid Javid I should think she knew quite a bit about him.
He is a far , far likelier contender than JRM ( who has never been in the running, or even in the Cabinet.)