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Jacob Rees-Mogg Moves For Conservative Party Leadership.

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Grandad1943 Wed 23-May-18 17:49:55

With an open attack on Theresa Mays handling of the Brexit negotiations many in the media believe that Jacob Rees-Mogg has made his first open move in a bid to become Conservative party leader and Britain's next Prime Minister.

Rees-Mogg in yet another of his ongoing interviews with the media lambasted "weak" Theresa May for preparing the UK for "Brexit failure". Rees-Mogg stated that with The British negotiators going into each set of negotiations with an attitude of "we will kowtow before you, Mr Barnier in every way you possible throughout these talks" there is no hope of success for the UK. The foregoing are undoubtedly harsh words indeed even from an arch hard line Brexitier, but many believe that there is far more to Rees-Moggs words than just Brexit.

It may well be that this hard line right wing politician has witnessed the way that Jeremy Corbyn has moved the Labour party to the left and now feels he could carry out the same in the Conservative party with the exception of that move being in the opposite direction in regards to political ground.

Evidence to the above can be seen in Rees-Moggs attack on Scottish Conservative Leader Ruth Davison, for in the same interview he stated that Davison should not be allowed to marry her longtime same sex partner as planned. However, same sex marriage legislation was put before parliament and passed in 2013 under the David Cameron coalition government.

In making the above comment Rees-Mogg is undoubtedly looking to damage Ruth Davison, who also is seen as a possible next leader of the Conservative party. That stated, it is also being seen as a move against centre ground Concervatives in parliament.

In the above can be seen shades of Momentum's original moves against centre Blairite MPs in the Labour party.

lemongrove Sun 27-May-18 13:06:42

I watched the Marr Show, and no, didn’t see or hear anything to make me think he wants to throw his hat in the ring ( not that there is a ring at the moment.)
He also didn’t criticise T May, in fact was very generous in all his comments about her Leadership.He said he wants her to stay true to the Mansion House Speech etc and the giving in to demands should become more of a two way thing.
I think the media see him as a colourful character and want him on tv and radio shows, so can’t blame him for responding to that and putting his point of view.

Grandad1943 Sun 27-May-18 13:34:44

Yes, Never Was A political knife wielded with such verbal Elegance. grin

varian Sun 27-May-18 14:02:01

JRM is the new Nigel Farage. The media (especially the BBC) saw Farage as a colourful character, relentlessly promoted him for twenty years and always gave him an easy ride in interviews - and look where that got us.

Jalima1108 Sun 27-May-18 14:35:10

So, perhaps an autumn election with Jacob Rees-Mogg running against Jeremy Corbyn for the keys to ten Downing Street.
That's putting the cart before the horse - they'd have to have a vote of no confidence in TM and a leadership election before then - and the summer recess.

Jalima1108 Sun 27-May-18 14:37:01

So, perhaps an autumn election with Jacob Rees-Mogg running against Jeremy Corbyn for the keys to ten Downing Street.

What do you bet Grandad?
I wouldn't risk even £1 on a gamble.

lemongrove Sun 27-May-18 15:50:52

Me neither Jalima and although events can change fast in politics, I think the media is pushing this Mogg agenda and although he is no doubt flattered by the attention and granting interviews, cannot seriously see him as a future PM. With a large family and many business interests no doubt he is more than happy to be a back bencher, and I for one, hope that is where he will stay.

Anniebach Sun 27-May-18 15:53:25

Wonder if the Tory party will sell votes to elect a new leader for £3.

lemongrove Sun 27-May-18 16:01:01

Any chance that Jeremy will go back to the back benches?grin

Anniebach Sun 27-May-18 16:13:10

Back further , much further please

MawBroon Sun 27-May-18 16:13:29

So, perhaps an autumn election with Jacob Rees-Mogg running against Jeremy Corbyn for the keys to ten Downing Street

Rock, hard place.
Devil, deep blue sea.

(But given fixed term parliaments why on earth an Autumn election? )

Grandad1943 Sun 27-May-18 16:22:16

If they put out a leadership ballot fully to the membership to decide the next leader JRM will be home and dry. Also votes of no confidence in Tory leaders are virtually unknown as the axe is normally brought down behind closed doors. I am sure many of us will remember the Tory Grandees trooping into Downing Street one at a time to tell Maggie Thatcher she had to go.

Also the Theresa Mays paid for alliance with the UDP could very soon fall apart over the border issue or if under pressure she attempts to change the abortion status of Northern Ireland.

Many in the media believe that a General Election is becoming ever more likely in the Autumn if deadlock ensues in parliament over any number of Brexit issues. If that prospect continues to increase, The Tories could get rid of May even during the Summer parliamentary recess.

Any number of things could happen in the current volatility of the Tory party. It will only take one to turn up trumps and she is either gone, or a snap General Election will be called, or perhaps both.

maryeliza54 Sun 27-May-18 17:06:06

The Tories bought votes to form a government ab but I expect you think that is fine - especially as the buyers believe in forced pregnancies no matter the context of the conception and are also homophobic.

maryeliza54 Sun 27-May-18 17:07:22

Maw the fixed term parliament Act is a bit of a moveable feast as we saw only last year

maryeliza54 Sun 27-May-18 17:08:48

Jal well I must have missed that vote of no confidence last year - silly me

MawBroon Sun 27-May-18 17:37:30

Point taken, last year Theresa May did her well known impression of a turkey voting for an early Christmas.
Surely she would not be stupid enough to risk that again?

Jalima1108 Sun 27-May-18 17:44:16

especially if the alternative is Jacob R-M

Grandad1943 Sun 27-May-18 17:54:09

MawBroon, Therisa May may well be forced into calling a General Election in the Autumn if cross party Alliances on various issues makes an agreement with the European Union on Britain leaving impossible.

Here in the Southwest many MPs of all parties are stating they will not vote for any EU agreement while the "sellout" of the fishing industry continues.

Another TM rock and a hard place.

Grandad1943 Sun 27-May-18 18:01:52

Jalima1108, JRM now has backing within the powerful Concervative party Bow Group in parliament. One of its members was only last week calling for Jacob Rees-Mogg to become party leader.

That's how near the door of ten Downing Street JRM has become.

maryeliza54 Sun 27-May-18 18:21:20

The Fixed Term Parliament Act is a fiction and anyone with an ounce of moral decency would repeal it.

Anniebach Sun 27-May-18 18:21:23

M.E. You have a thread on abortion laws Forgotten ?

Jalima1108 Sun 27-May-18 18:41:46

Here in the Southwest many MPs of all parties are stating they will not vote for any EU agreement while the "sellout" of the fishing industry continues.

Do you have a link, please, Grandad, as I can't find anything and I usually watch the West Country news too (but not usually the SW news which would cover what remains of the fishing industry).

maryeliza54 Sun 27-May-18 18:42:20

Butt out ab I’ll post where and what I want - trying to tell me otherwise?

Anniebach Sun 27-May-18 18:44:17

M.E. Just a helpful reminder

Grandad1943 Sun 27-May-18 18:51:15

Jalima1108, if you search around I am sure you will find their views on the subject. When we were in Cornwall a couple of weeks ago the south Devon MPs were on BBC Southwest speaking on the Sellout.

MPs in the Northeast have also I believe spoken in similar terms. Whether any of the interviews are available on BBC iPlayer I would not know.

Grandad1943 Sun 27-May-18 18:56:09

I believe there is also widespread "concern" across the House of Commons in regard to what many see as the sellout of the fishing industry to save the London based Finance Industry in a "prospective" EU agreement.