Repeal the 8th

Well it’s over, end of . Thank you Newmom

Irish Health Minister ..

“Under the Eigth Amendment, women in crisis pregnancy have been told: ‘Take the plane, take the boat: Today we tell them: Take our hand”.

#RepealedThe8th.

YES

Oh annie annie annie

Anniebach Fri 25-May-18 09:54:32
Paddyann, do butt out, I will post what and when I choose

One law for one poster, and one for another?

Oh M,M,M,

That was relating to a post not telling anyone to leave the thread

Try again

I am delighted for the women of Ireland today as their country gives them control of their own bodies .Now the government NOT the church in Northern Ireland needs to do the same .

Its going to look weird if women from Northern Ireland are now going to be crossing over the border into the Republic for abortions.

Why are they so behind the rest of the UK?

Because the DUP and the Church of Ireland are even more reactionary bigots than the Catholic Church-and that takes some doing!

I wonder if the experience of membership of the wider EU community, has helped bring Ireland into the 21st century. It throws into sharp focus the reactionary line taken in the North, does it not?

Great news!

Yes, yes and yes

Some commentators think that the child sex abuse scandals have really had an impact on the authority of the church in Ireland - I guess it’s multi factorial as most of these thing are. Certainly the prosperity from the EU has led to a better educated population especially amongst women and once women are educated and value themselves, all things are possible, as we have seen. It was heartening today to hear Penny Mourdanr raise the NI situation. But as the Govt is in hock to the DUP it’s unlikely we’ll do anything.

Theresa May says abortion is an issue to be decided by Northern Ireland and its devolved powers. But because Northern Ireland hasn’t been able to form a government, their powers have reverted to Westminster.
So the ball is in May’s court. But she can’t risk upsetting the DUP as their votes are propping the Tories up.
Crazy!

Liberal Democrat leader Sir Vince Cable has said Mrs May should take advantage of the current lack of a devolved administration and push for reform from Westminster. “The position in Northern Ireland is now highly anomalous and I think, probably, action will now have to be taken,” he said.

Sarah Wollaston, the Conservative chairwoman of the Commons Health Select Committee, said: “I would vote to support an extension of abortion rights to all women across the whole UK. “As this is a devolved issue, if an amendment is not accepted by the Speaker, then there should at very least be a referendum in Northern Ireland on this issue.”

Read more at: inews.co.uk/news/politics/northern-irelands-abortion-laws-crisis/

It’s good that SW has spoken out but TM will do nothing as she sold her soul ( assuming she has) to the devil in order to form a government. The only hope is that the Speaker might accept the amendment and at least if there were a free vote, I’m hopeful it would pass. Where that would leave us constitutionally I’ve no idea but it would be a message to those hatchet faced bigots in the DUP. NI now has one of the harshest regimes re abortion in Western Europe ( plus no gay marriage). Anyone who doesn’t think this is an utter disgrace has no care or compassion. United Kingdom - you must be joking

When they were making a fuss about the Customs Union the DUP were saying that they were part of the U.K. so same rules should apply. Seems not when it comes to abortion, gay marriage etc

Very good point.

I think 6 months too far gone to have an abortion.

I am deeply troubled by the thought of aborting a child so far into the pregnancy

You and me both Annie, in fact unless it's in the direst of circumstances its a complete No, No.

niggly, I am haunted by the girl who said her mother miscarried at 13 weeks and the little mite was perfectly formed. And we have been told for years an unborn baby recognises music and his/her mother’s voice .

No scans when I had my babies, but I am sure every mother can remember that first kick and the midwife listening to the heart beat with those trumpet things . When we had scans the babies heart beating was visible at eight weeks .

I seem to be the only one who was deeply uncomfortable with the scenes of celebration when the result was announced. I feel such jubilation wasn’t fitting.

Is it me?

The reasons why late abortions take place has already been discussed earlier in the thread.

But 90% of terminations are before 12 weeks, are you objecting to that? Late abortions are usually for serious medical reasons.