Regret it Brexit Part 2

So mostly to continue your analogy, I don’t think there will be any blood on the carpet, more that they will all be read the riot act by T May, and will fall into line.Which line, is another matter.

I think they're more likely to read May the riot act. You are hopelessly naive, lemon.

Not at all Maizie but all May has to do is remind them that if they value their jobs they will all have to compromise to some degree, it’s unlikely they will want an election and Corbyn in number 10 or to lose their positions as ministers.
Most politicians would fall into line given an ultimatum like that.

They all want her job, lemon. They just don't want it until the Brexit disaster is under way and they can blame her for it. In the meantime they'll be as outrageous as they please because they know she daren't sack them.

But until Brexit is underway, they can’t kick too much!

Grandad 1943 Sun 01-Jul-18 13:16:45

" If that result is confirmed Unite with other Unions will without doubt put enormous pressure on Corbyn and those around him to take a far firmer stance against Brexit.

Should he not, then a change of leader would be very much on the cards I believe. "

Goodness me so both Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn are in some peoples eyes suffering from the curse of Leadership and mutiny.

A Bloomberg report alleged that currency speculators used inaccurate early predictions of a remain victory to profit by shorting the pound.

Farage twice said he thought the remain campaign had won the referendum but, according to Bloomberg, was privy to private exit poll data indicating the public had voted in favour of leaving the EU. At 10pm on the day of the referendum, Farage gave an interview to Sky News in which he said: “it looks like remain will edge it. Ukip and I are going nowhere and the party will only continue to grow stronger in the future.”

Why did Nigel Farage tell the world he thought remain had won? Just over an hour later, Farage gave a second interview to the Press Association, in which he said: “I don’t know, but I think remain will edge it, yes … If I am wrong, I would be thrilled. But it is what we have seen out and about, and what I know from some of my friends in the financial markets who have done some big polling.”

Bloomberg noted that books, by the leave campaign financier Arron Banks and the political journalist Tim Shipman, both said Farage learned the results of “an unidentified, financial services exit poll” before polls closed at 10pm. Farage told Bloomberg that the only external exit poll he received on the day of the referendum was conducted by Survation. Survation’s poll correctly predicted that leave would win the referendum. He repeatedly told Bloomberg that he learned the results of the exit poll “minutes after” Sky broadcast his comments.

The news of an apparent concession by the leave campaign’s most prominent figure immediately after polls closed pushed the value of sterling higher. However, when the pound subsequently crashed as the true result became clear, any individuals or companies with short bets would have profited. Shorting is the practice of selling shares or other assets which you don’t own, in the hope of buying them back at a cheaper price in the future and making a profit.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/25/nigel-farage-denies-shorting-value-of-sterling-on-night-of-brexit-vote

Anyone who is still asking which of the "elite" have made money by gambling on this country's future should read "The Brexit Short: How Hedge Funds Used Private Polls to Make Millions" Private polls—and a timely ‘concession’ from the face of Leave—allowed the funds to make millions off the pound’s collapse.

www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-06-25/brexit-big-short-how-pollsters-helped-hedge-funds-beat-the-crash

These same bankers and their political associates in the ERG are almost certainly the only people who stand to benefit from a "jump off the cliff" leave with no deal scenario, whilst the rest of the British people would suffer the consequences for generations.

POGS, I totally agree that the leadership of both major parties is most definitely under threat due to Brexit disagreements within their organisations. Even the most right-wing newspapers are stating today that the May government could collapse as early as next week if some kind of agreement cannot be reached among her warring cabinet members at Chequers over the weekend.

However, I cannot see how in the Conservative party at this time any alternative leader acceptable to the majority is to be found. Therefore, a very disruptive general election could well have to be held at a time when the Brexit date is fast approaching.

However, within the Parliamentary Labour Party deep splits exist in regard to Brexit with Jeremy Corbyn seemingly not even clear on his position in regards to Britain leaving the European Union. Therefore, it has to be asked if a general election would, in fact, solve any of the major questions facing Britain in regards to the European Union.

With now any number of large manufacturing companies and other businesses stressing that they may well leave Britain in favour of the re-establishment in the European Union should Britain leave in a hard Brexit, then I believe many would wonder in regards to the future stability of the United Kingdom should the above come about.

If a hard Brexit where to bring about the loss of many thousands of jobs, then disruption and perhaps even violence on Britain's streets is not beyond the realms of possibility.

As we both agreed the other day POGS, realism and pragmatism should be now at the forefront of everyone's minds as we look at this seemingly desperate and insolvable problem that we all find ourselves in.

Anyway POGS I am in the office today, so I had better get on with the work. England also takes another step tonight towards lifting the World Cup, so perhaps that can lift the gloom overhanging the country at the moment. Therefore, it is unlikely that I shall be on the forum again today and I hope to be celebrating a very large win