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notanan2 Fri 06-Jul-18 12:16:59

Im not at all pro trump but IMO this is awful

It is not a "protest". Ive been on protests. They have a point and an aim

What is point/aim here?
That they don't like his appearance & don't want UK to even try to negotiate?
They don't want us to be the "bigger person" as a nation? they want us to be as childish and petty as him?

Its embarrassing and diplomatically dangerous, NOT an exercise in constructive protect or free speech

trisher Sat 07-Jul-18 11:50:38

We as a country base our reputation on standing up for human rights, fighting for the under dog, preserving freedom and speaking out against those who threaten to destroy these concepts. The Trump Blimp is an artistic expression of that reputation. Demonstrating against someone who is systematically undermining those rights is preserving our reputation, and the millions of people in the USA and all over the world who recognise the harm this man has, and is, doing will applaud us for it.
It is no use protesting about human rights in the rest of the world, whilst watching the systematic destruction of them in a country which has always held them at the heart of its existance, but no longer does.

maddyone Sat 07-Jul-18 11:49:58

Good post POGS.

POGS Sat 07-Jul-18 11:29:28

It is childish .

The Lord Mayor of London has made his personal views of Donald Trump perfectly clear and it is a fact the Lord Mayors Office sanctioned the use of the blimp. Whether he is right or wrong in doing so will be viewed differently.

Often there is talk of how we look as a country and to be frank I think we are looking pretty stupid over this .

The fact is Donald Trump has met with leading Politicians of other countries such as Merkel, Putin, Macron . Trump has met with the Kings of Spain, Jordan . Trump has visited Belgium, China, Japan, Italy , Poland etc. etc. all with little to know trouble.

The hypocrisy of going to town to show disapproval of Donal Trump eludes me. I wish the protesters would go to the Embassies of Syria, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, Burma/Myanmar where 1000's have either gone missing, imprisoned, killed or fleeing conflict but the likes of Aung San Suu Kyi were feted and goodness knows how Iran and Assad of Syria get away with so little complaint from some.

London is the UK capital of business and commerce and the Lord Mayor is the high representative and this is not the time in our countries history to make enemies of allies.

Iam64 Sat 07-Jul-18 11:29:06

waves at trisher- Trump is a disgusting human being. Khan may not be everybody's favourite mayor. He is not a disgusting human being. He also doesn't hold the kind of power that Trump does. I've never heard of Khan using foul language, or sexually abusing/harrassing women. He doesn't seem to be an offensive bully, unlike Mr T who most certainly is.
I think the hot weather may be finally getting to me. I've just had a rant on another post. I shall go and hoover the upstairs of the house, do a bit of gardening and prepare for the footie.

notanan2 Sat 07-Jul-18 11:27:33

I’m with the ignore him brigade. Distain is far more British

Apparently not any more

The Irish have gone down this road for the popes visit to protest the mass graves by buying out seats to his audiences so that they will remain empty.

Anyway he is apparently to almost completely avoid london on his trip....cos London is a no go war zone cause of the immigrants and all hmm - in light of which, a civilised dignified london would make him look silly....but we're intent on making ourselves look silly instead

Chewbacca Sat 07-Jul-18 10:55:55

You're right eazybee, it most certainly does, irrespective of who or what the balloon is aimed at insulting.

trisher Sat 07-Jul-18 10:55:17

Trump to Paul Manafort his campaign manager
You think you've gotta go on TV to talk to me? You treat me like a baby!” Trump said.
“Am I like a baby to you? I sit there like a little baby and watch TV and you talk to me? Am I a f--king baby, Paul?”

eazybee Sat 07-Jul-18 10:53:00

I dislike Trump and I distrust Khan, and at the moment I mistrust most senior politicians.
But I do not want to see any of these immensely vulgar balloons floating over Britain.
It demeans us.

trisher Sat 07-Jul-18 10:52:37

This actually has a very reasonable history behind it. Trump has accused people of treating him like a baby.It therefore seems appropriate that an image of him as a baby should be created and if you create something surely it should be exhibited/used. The issue of Sadiq Khan giving permission is a distraction.

maryeliza54 Sat 07-Jul-18 10:34:57

According to the crowdfunding website any money left over will go to funding a pro-Brexit blimp. Of course it will.

gillybob Sat 07-Jul-18 10:34:51

It was only to be expected petra and just as I feared .

maryeliza54 Sat 07-Jul-18 10:30:41

That sort of misses the point doesn’t it petra of it being DT who is the baby whilst SK’s crime is being Moslem

petra Sat 07-Jul-18 10:25:44

So far the crowdfunding website has raised £27,000+ for an image of Sadiq Kahn in a nappy to be flown over London.

maddyone Sat 07-Jul-18 10:12:43

Re the Blimp, or inflated balloon, which is how I think of it, I think it’s rather rude and unbecoming, but it’s a free country, so I’m not going to get too hot and bothered about it.

maryeliza54 Sat 07-Jul-18 10:10:58

I agree absolutely it’s a poor idea gilly and it’s irrelevant what his heritage is. Sadly in the sm world for the racists on there of which there are many, it’s the only thing that counts about him. Do you remember Zac Goldsmiths racist mayoral campaign about SK? I don’t really think though that blimps are per se awful. There have been some very funny photoshopped images of DT on sm and the political cartoons in some papers often depict him as a crying baby throwing his toys out of the pram. I think this blimp is a bad idea because it distracts people from the real issue which is the unbelievable awfulness of this ‘man’.

maddyone Sat 07-Jul-18 10:10:03

Also, yes Khan has a family, two daughters. Trump also has a family, several children I believe. Why does having a family make either of them good or bad?

maddyone Sat 07-Jul-18 10:07:23

Khan is a good and family man! Really! I expect that the descriptor ‘good’ is a matter of opinion, and also depends on what exactly is being described. Why is he good? Because of his political views? Because he gives to charity? Because he likes the colour blue? Why is he good? On what is that comment based?

gillybob Sat 07-Jul-18 09:22:49

I don’t belong to any other social media sights maryeliza . I think/thought suzied was suggesting that I had used “vitriol” against SK when I know I haven’t .

The fact that he is of Asian decent is completely irrelevant as far as I am concerned . He has the power to block it and should’ve used that . Imagine some nasty group making a charactature blimp of him? Or any other political or royal figure for that matter ? It would be in such bad taste and I really can’t see the difference .

NfkDumpling Sat 07-Jul-18 07:28:21

I’m with the ignore him brigade. Distain is far more British.

maryeliza54 Sat 07-Jul-18 07:21:46

Priests = protests. What else could it be?

maryeliza54 Sat 07-Jul-18 07:19:53

Because SK is if Asian heritage and only because of that he receives the most appalling racist abuse on social media gillybob honestly. Day after day after day.Just like DA. I
However re the Blimp personally I think it’s a poor idea. But it’s peaceful protest and we live in the semblance of a democracy. I think there will be more traditional priests as well. As for ignoring the visit instead - well given the ‘man’ we are dealing with, he’ll spin whatever we do so people might as well do what they want.

suzied Sat 07-Jul-18 05:57:48

I think it’s horrible btw but I defend the right of people to protest / make fun of politicians and I’d rather have a silly balloon than a march or disruptive demo.

suzied Sat 07-Jul-18 05:53:42

If you want to crowdfund for an inflatable when any other leader comes to the U.K. and go through all the hurdles needed to put it up then you can have one lemon. It’s not being done by an official body or political party. It’s called freedom. Just like cartoons, spitting image or Private Eye. We are allowed to make fun of politicians. Maybe you’d prefer to be in Saudi Arabia or Turkey where this sort of thing wouldn’t be allowed.

lemongrove Fri 06-Jul-18 23:58:30

Wonder ( seems to be my typo day today)

lemongrove Fri 06-Jul-18 23:57:43

Will there be an inflatable when Saudi Arabia comes a visiting, or China or Iran I wonder?
Trump is seen as an easy target.Making him President was the American people’s worst mistake, but either you recognise the ‘office’ of President or you don’t.
A march or demonstration is one thing, but a crass balloon is another, and you have to winder who dreamed it up.....students?