That's quite a question nellie. My view is that you are right about what has always been Corbyn's stance that he is anti EU, as was Tony Benn and other who all shared Communist Trotsky ideology.
You have now made me think about this more carefully. I have had to do some reading nellie, and it seems, that there is a fracture between the traditional left and far left as we see in Corbyn et al and now the new far left Momentum, who appear to have been taken over largely by the elite, intelligencia intent on bringing down the UK Establishment by a 66% for vote, the organisation decided as a group to support Remain in the referendum. This very action is unlike other groups who gave every person free choice in how they wished to vote at the referendum, should sound a warning about the nature of this group.
Just can't place them on the Political spectrum accurately yet...I will do some more reading. They are in favour of Nationalising, no private ownership, everything including financial markets, systems. Annibach would know more about Momentum...certainly not Labour Party as we have come to know it...much further left than far from what I have read.
It is evident that they see the EU as an ambitious target for socialist take over since the systems of trading are easy to privatise because of the regulations and directive. Rules as we saw in 1939- 1945 lend themselves to organised wholesale destruction of anything or anybody that get's in the way of the ideology of power that is prevailing. Then they intend to "democratise" (since they, as we believe that the EU is not democratic), the European Parliament, to a "Europe Wide" "socialist central". This will control in their ambitious take over plans 27 Country's.
A Guardian article explains the reasons for the choice that Momentum has made to support Remain.
^Momentum and other campaigners will launch an initiative called Your Referendum, which will aim to enthuse hundreds of thousands of progressive activists at local level.
Emma Rees, a national organiser for Momentum, said: “As a democratic organisation, Momentum has had to wait for our national committee to meet in order to take an official position – but when it came the vote was overwhelming, and 66.5% of our members when surveyed also asked us to campaign for remain^.
“^Although individuals will be free to take whatever position they wish, we will now be mobilising our resources and networks and fighting hard to keep Britain in the EU, with a very different message to that of David Cameron.^”
Michael Chessum, a member of Momentum’s steering committee and organiser at Another Europe is Possible, said: “^There is now a growing coalition coming together to campaign for a remain vote on an unapologetically progressive and critical basis – for freedom of movement, internationalism and solidarity across borders.
“^Momentum’s support will bring a real boost to the campaign at a grassroots level, bringing in the Labour voters and younger voters who have been put off by the rightwing, establishment-dominated official campaigns, and who may well determine the outcome of this referendum.^”
www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/24/pro-corbyn-group-momentum-backs-remain-campaign
This cut and paste is from a Momentum meeting:
Below is what will be discussed at the Momentum National Committee in Manchester tomorrow.
EU REFERENDUM – FOR A LEFT “IN” VOTE
Britain leaving the EU would be a victory for the nationalist right and their campaign against migrants, almost certainly reshaping the British political and social landscape for the worse.
The EU promotes neoliberal policies in the interests of capitalism – but so does the UK. The British ruling class and government will press ahead with attacks in or out – and outside the EU, the barriers to their assault will be lower, while barriers between us and our brothers and sisters in other countries will be higher.
We support an “in” vote.
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We oppose David Cameron’s reforms, which attack the rights of workers and migrants. We endorse Jeremy Corbyn’s call for a “Europe that puts people, not multinationals, at its heart”, through “public ownership […] democratisation, stronger workers’ rights, sustainable growth and jobs”, won through “alliances across Europe to end austerity”.
^We call for^:
• Cross¬-European working¬-class and social movement struggles against austerity and for levelling up wages, conditions, services and rights, funded by taxing the rich and public ownership of finance;
• Radical democratisation, including empowering the European Parliament;
•¬ An end to “Fortress Europe” – freedom of movement and equal rights for all.
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Using the slogans “Another Europe is possible”, “For a workers’ Europe” and “For a socialist Europe”, Momentum nationally will campaign for an “in” on this basis, making defence of migrants, anti¬austerity and international solidarity central. This will include an urgent press release, a leaflet and a rally in London at least.
We will work with Labour, with “in” unions, and with the Another Europe is Possible network.
We call on the whole of Momentum to campaign on this basis.
So at the referendum my view from all this is that the vote was not a big majority 66% but a majority for campaigning for Remain or In as they called it. Reason for this was not about the EU really it was against Multinational, it believed in entire Public ownership and ^“alliances across Europe to end austerity”.
We call for:
• Cross¬-European working¬-class and social movement struggles against austerity and for levelling up wages, conditions, services and rights, funded by taxing the rich and *public ownership of finance*;
• Radical democratisation, including *empowering the European Parliament*;
This means that they recognise that the EU is not a democracy, and will democratise it thereby empowering a European Parliament toward socialist Europe and solidarity central. This now means that I can place them on the Political spectrum ---Communism through control of the EU trading by Nationalising the whole system that would encompass 27 Country's then democratise the European Parliament to create Socialist Europe....Communism, by no Public ownership, no personal financial institutions all in National ownership, that means no home ownership or personal pensions all would be state at one level and it is always the lowest not the highest. These are communist values but on a Europe wide ambition. Scary, Scary!
The meeting then said:
•¬ An end to “Fortress Europe” – freedom of movement and equal rights for all.
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Using the slogans “Another Europe is possible”, “For a workers’ Europe” and “For a socialist Europe”, Momentum nationally will campaign for an “in” on this basis, making defence of migrants, anti¬austerity and international solidarity central.
Wow Nellie, I am so pleased you asked that question, I am much more aware now, as we all should now be of the motivations of Momentum, it isn't just the Labour Party they want to take over...it's the World, with Europe first, well UK first but that will be a struggle if we leave the EU. Than goodness we are. Most people only have what they own in their homes. That if removed and taken away by a socialist/communist mandate would be the end for most ordinary people. Read the mandates before you vote is my recommendation. Assume nothing, only that someone else has a hidden agenda, and will use the ballot box to take power.
Nellie back to the question, so we now know how they stood and why for the Referendum, but I do not know what happened at the GE since JC stood on a Pro Brexit mandate. I will do some more reading and get back to you. It might not be for a couple of hours, things to do.
- nothing fancy, mind, I have my eye on some trainers for £650.