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Frank Field

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Anniebach Thu 30-Aug-18 16:35:07

Frank Field is resigning the party whip and will serve as an independent MP in protest of the party’s excuses over anti semitism and bullying in the party

After 39 years of being a labour MP

Shame on you Corbyn, shame on you

Anniebach Sun 02-Sep-18 12:30:19

All faiths are supporting the campaign against anti semitism, Anglican, RC, Muslim, Buddist, Sikh,

Brilliant speech from Gordon Brown

grannypauline Tue 04-Sep-18 02:36:35

To return to Frank Field:

Far from being a principled Labour politician, Frank Field is a political maverick, promoting his right-wing views on welfare reform, immigration and abortion rights, while on occasion expressing his admiration for Margaret Thatcher (“certainly a hero”) and Enoch Powell (“The ‘Rivers of Blood’ speech gave him a commanding position among voters, as Enoch was expressing their fears”). He was a paid Sun journalist.

Field has been one the most hostile critics of Jeremy Corbyn’s socialist politics. In May last year he threatened to split the Parliamentary Labour Party, by forming a “People’s Labour” bloc of right-wing MPs, if Corbyn refused to stand down as leader following the general election.

In the 1987 Field denounced the left-wing Labour candidate - in the neighbouring Wallasey constituency - Lol Duffy, in the press. He also strongly opposed the workers’ occupation of the Cammell Laird shipyard and was hostile to trade union activity. In the Commons he is a right-wing maverick, earning praise from Tories and the media but annoying many Labour MPs.

Back at his home constituency, members of Birkenhead Labour Party are not prepared to accept this sort of behaviour any longer. As one critic wrote recently: “Field’s views are so clearly inimical to Labour principles of justice, humanity and acceptance that in his case it’s reasonable to ask whether he should still be representing Labour voters in parliament.”

But it is probably his voting record that indicates what his politics are, and while he sometimes voted for a liberal agenda and with the Labour whip, he
consistently voted for the Iraq War and often voted against any investigation into that war.

He voted for a replacement nuclear weapon for Trident and he voted inconsistently on University tuition fees. Abstained (and didn't vote against) cuts which included child tax credits and the household benefit cap. The latter was consistent with his lack of real opposition to the Tories' austerity scenario with its consequent swingeing cuts to local services.

You guys can decide how much you like and admire him, but his policies don't really attack the problems of housing, the big corporations, welfare etc. There is no sense of a coherent policy to develop a more equal society through socialist policies such as those enshrined in Clause 4 part 4 (which he fought so hard to remove from Labour's manifestos): "to secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry and the most equitable distribution thereof that may be possible upon the basis of the of t he means of production, distribution and exchange, and the best obtainable system of popular administration and control of each industry or service.”

M0nica Tue 04-Sep-18 11:23:35

grannypauline Are you saying that because Frank Field has principles different from yours and represents a different strand of the broad church that is the Labour Party, he is to be condemned?

I admire people of principle, whether I agree with them or not. Presumably you only admire with those that agree with you, Isn't that a bit blinkered?

POGS Tue 04-Sep-18 12:09:06

grannypauline

I have to say think I may have read a good deal of your post somewhere else but not on GN, am I mistaken?

Are you saying / giving the impression as others are doing ( since Frank Field resigned the whip ) such as for example Owen Jones if I interpret his ire toward Frank correctly, Frank Field ' admired ' Enoch Powell.

As for Bishop Peter Selby and his ' personal opinion ' of Frank Field that has been misappropriated in my opinion to attack Frank Field and I appreciate others view it differently, did Bishop Selby not also accuse others of doing the same at the time re Enoch Powell .? Happy to be corrected.

Anniebach Tue 04-Sep-18 20:09:29

Get this man had an increase majority at the last election, many MP’s would be very happy to win a seat by 25,000 votes

Jalima1108 Tue 04-Sep-18 20:28:17

Are they your own words grannypauline or are they copied and pasted?

It would be nice to know.
If copied and pasted you can use these ^ which puts the copied words ^into italics so that other posters know.

Thanks smile

Jalima1108 Tue 04-Sep-18 20:29:21

You guys
I'm a woman, not a guy
smile