Corbyn in trouble

sorry, that wasn't very clear..... Meant to say that GN seems better recently.

there has certainly been a lot of nastiness aimed at me and at people with similar views to mine too, it's a public forum, it happens and GN is a cuddly rabbit compared to many social media sites.Less so now though, than a little while ago, I have to say.

I just think it’s quite rude to talk about people who are no longer active on the forum, in this case myself, and that was why I responded.
Oh dear, all those threads asking where posters are and worrying about them. I didn't realise we were being rude.

Im not back lemongrove, can’t be bothered to be honest. I look in from time to time but nothing I’ve seen has tempted me back. I just think it’s quite rude to talk about people who are no longer active on the forum, in this case myself, and that was why I responded.

I stand by what I said about a lack of reasoned debate and about victimhood. There was certainly a lot of nastiness aimed at people with similar views to mine and to me personally at times. I don’t engage with people who make personal attacks either on a forum or in real life.

We can all say we have ' Got tired of having OUR heads in permanent contact with brick walls ' but we don't fall back on being the victim

I don't follow your reasoning at all POGS. Nobody's claiming victimhood. Some just chose to leave.

And leaving Gnet is a darned sight easier than leaving the EU

welcome back from your break with GN nightowl
however, the old chestnut of posters saying that others [with differing views] 'do not have the capacity for reasoned debate' is a well used one on GN political threads.
yes, a couple of the far left posters who took themselves off to pastures new did suggest they were victims [they most certainly were not.]

If this is referring to me Annie could you please try to get things right. I actually said that if people like Corbyn (and other left wing Labour people) had not kept the avenues open for discourse with the IRA there would have been no Good Friday Agreement. Every agreement begins with discussion. No discussion means no agreement and more conflict.
As for threads on Corbyn it isn't the first you've started and I suppose it won't be the last. I wonder just how many times you think you have to post the same things before everyone believes you?

As my name has been brought into this thread (I’m not sure for what purpose POGS) I will say that I most certainly did not consider myself a victim, but did get very tired of trying to have reasoned debates with posters who, as OldMeg rightly said, simply lack the capacity to do so. I quite simply felt I could use my time more wisely. I don’t believe any of the posters who left ever suggested they were victims either so let’s have a bit less of that nonsense please.

the tide has turned now, and many people are recognising what Annie did about Corbyn.A third rate but dangerous man in a job well above his capabilities.

It has been claimed by a Corbyn admire that Corbyn was responsible for The Good Friday Agreement! But claiming he has a personality is realy stretching it ?

I think Frank Field standing down as a Labour mp was worthy of a tbread . When the spokeswoman for UNITE said he was naive and the party was discombobulated I did start a new thread, Frank Field and Corbyn are two different people

I agree with you MaizieD these politics threads are so often about personality and not policy. the repetition on the anti Corbyn threads is just irritating.
Threads are started with the sole intention of being a platform for particular posters dislike of one politician.

Annie you are using GN as a platform to advertise your hatred for Jeremy Corbyn. As one thread peters out then another gets started.

I don't think it is Anniebach who starts most of the political threads in fact.

And I think that Anniebach has made it clear on more than one occasion that she does not hate anyone, even Corbyn.

I don't hate him either but I think that his leadership is a disaster for the Labour Party.

I meant the OP. ' May in trouble '.

Anniebach

" Annie you are using GN as a platform to advertise your hatred for Jeremy Corbyn. As one thread peters out then another gets started. "
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I will be polite and say ' irony ' when it is available to read the OP you mentioned started by the accuser.

Maizie d

" I'm a relatively new poster "
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I don't believe somebody who has posted for at least 2 years , maybe more but I don't know, is a ' relative new comer '.

You have been quite a prolific poster, certainly not a lurker and you have never ' held back ' as most certainly did those who chose to leave.

We can all say we have ' Got tired of having OUR heads in permanent contact with brick walls ' but we don't fall back on being the victim .

Old Meg

" Wonder what happened to them? "

Really Old Meg?

You either have a short memory span or are trying to stir things up a tad . Perhaps this might jog your memory, although this is not the first nor the last thread that makes the left wing posters ' victims '.

www.gransnet.com/forums/other_subjects/1247071-durhamjen?pg=1

You posted:-

OldMeg Thu 12-Apr-18 08:15:04

"Reading through this thread very carefully from beginning to this point, I’m not surprised that a poster like Nightowl has temporarily taken a break from GN.

If someone whose opinions are so politely stated, and who backs up her views with factual information and considered prose feels like this then it’s a sorry state of affairs.

I’m not sure how to put this without causing offence, but it is clearly the case that some posters simply lack the capacity to debate."
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I agree with your last sentence whole heartedly.

Maizie, you mean like a thread on Mrs May’s attempts to dance ?

They did, OldMeg.

I'm a relatively new poster but I've noticed that attempts to introduce political issues or concepts for discussion, rather than personalities, tend to die a death. It can be frustrating but if that's what most posters want (i.e personalities rather than issues) then perhaps some people find that withdrawing is the best option.

Did they leave voluntarily then MaizieD?

There are still strong voiced far left posters on the forum

Diana, how can anyone be held responsible for Corbyn’s words and actions except Corbyn?

Wonder what happened to them?

Got tired of having their heads in permanent contact with brick walls?
Some of them left Gnet.

Good post,*OldMeg*.

Annie you are using GN as a platform to advertise your hatred for Jeremy Corbyn. As one thread peters out then another gets started.

I’m hoping there are enough free thinkers out there to realise that one person’s opinion is just that. As Duana has just pointed out there are a lot of extreme right wing views circulating, especially as those on the left of the political divide have somehow not been seen or heard on GN for a long time.

Wonder what happened to them?

It is exactly the sort of under the radar mischief that the Tory dirty tricks department does, do not underestimate them. They were very active during the referendum and are implicated in the Alex Salmond affair, TM has done well to sidestep their efforts so far, she must have a very good advisor looking after her interests
I am very cynical about party politics, why not discredit your rival, perpetuate the agony the media love it, Corbyn does make himself an easy target though.
There are plenty of Labour MPs and councillors who dislike Corbyn, others just want the issue to go away, no coordination though.

As an aside comment. I was discussing Brexit with one of my cousins last week, extreme Brexit views, for emotional reasons ( her words), she wanted JR-M as PM. There are a lot of extreme right wing views circulating.

Diana 54

" IMHO a lot of this Zionist issue is being perpetuated by the Israel lobby in the Tory party and they are making a pretty good job of it to "

Interesting. Can you explain or give some sort of detail as to why you believe this.

Do you think the Labour MP's, councillors who have said there is a problem are in cahoots with those you call Tory party Israel lobbyists?