Corbyn in trouble

Old Meg

" Wonder what happened to them? "

Really Old Meg?

You either have a short memory span or are trying to stir things up a tad . Perhaps this might jog your memory, although this is not the first nor the last thread that makes the left wing posters ' victims '.

www.gransnet.com/forums/other_subjects/1247071-durhamjen?pg=1

You posted:-

OldMeg Thu 12-Apr-18 08:15:04

"Reading through this thread very carefully from beginning to this point, I’m not surprised that a poster like Nightowl has temporarily taken a break from GN.

If someone whose opinions are so politely stated, and who backs up her views with factual information and considered prose feels like this then it’s a sorry state of affairs.

I’m not sure how to put this without causing offence, but it is clearly the case that some posters simply lack the capacity to debate."
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I agree with your last sentence whole heartedly.

Maizie d

" I'm a relatively new poster "
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I don't believe somebody who has posted for at least 2 years , maybe more but I don't know, is a ' relative new comer '.

You have been quite a prolific poster, certainly not a lurker and you have never ' held back ' as most certainly did those who chose to leave.

We can all say we have ' Got tired of having OUR heads in permanent contact with brick walls ' but we don't fall back on being the victim .

Anniebach

" Annie you are using GN as a platform to advertise your hatred for Jeremy Corbyn. As one thread peters out then another gets started. "
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I will be polite and say ' irony ' when it is available to read the OP you mentioned started by the accuser.

I meant the OP. ' May in trouble '.

Annie you are using GN as a platform to advertise your hatred for Jeremy Corbyn. As one thread peters out then another gets started.

I don't think it is Anniebach who starts most of the political threads in fact.

And I think that Anniebach has made it clear on more than one occasion that she does not hate anyone, even Corbyn.

I don't hate him either but I think that his leadership is a disaster for the Labour Party.

I agree with you MaizieD these politics threads are so often about personality and not policy. the repetition on the anti Corbyn threads is just irritating.
Threads are started with the sole intention of being a platform for particular posters dislike of one politician.

It has been claimed by a Corbyn admire that Corbyn was responsible for The Good Friday Agreement! But claiming he has a personality is realy stretching it ?

I think Frank Field standing down as a Labour mp was worthy of a tbread . When the spokeswoman for UNITE said he was naive and the party was discombobulated I did start a new thread, Frank Field and Corbyn are two different people

the tide has turned now, and many people are recognising what Annie did about Corbyn.A third rate but dangerous man in a job well above his capabilities.

As my name has been brought into this thread (I’m not sure for what purpose POGS) I will say that I most certainly did not consider myself a victim, but did get very tired of trying to have reasoned debates with posters who, as OldMeg rightly said, simply lack the capacity to do so. I quite simply felt I could use my time more wisely. I don’t believe any of the posters who left ever suggested they were victims either so let’s have a bit less of that nonsense please.

If this is referring to me Annie could you please try to get things right. I actually said that if people like Corbyn (and other left wing Labour people) had not kept the avenues open for discourse with the IRA there would have been no Good Friday Agreement. Every agreement begins with discussion. No discussion means no agreement and more conflict.
As for threads on Corbyn it isn't the first you've started and I suppose it won't be the last. I wonder just how many times you think you have to post the same things before everyone believes you?

welcome back from your break with GN nightowl
however, the old chestnut of posters saying that others [with differing views] 'do not have the capacity for reasoned debate' is a well used one on GN political threads.
yes, a couple of the far left posters who took themselves off to pastures new did suggest they were victims [they most certainly were not.]

We can all say we have ' Got tired of having OUR heads in permanent contact with brick walls ' but we don't fall back on being the victim

I don't follow your reasoning at all POGS. Nobody's claiming victimhood. Some just chose to leave.

And leaving Gnet is a darned sight easier than leaving the EU

Im not back lemongrove, can’t be bothered to be honest. I look in from time to time but nothing I’ve seen has tempted me back. I just think it’s quite rude to talk about people who are no longer active on the forum, in this case myself, and that was why I responded.

I stand by what I said about a lack of reasoned debate and about victimhood. There was certainly a lot of nastiness aimed at people with similar views to mine and to me personally at times. I don’t engage with people who make personal attacks either on a forum or in real life.

I just think it’s quite rude to talk about people who are no longer active on the forum, in this case myself, and that was why I responded.
Oh dear, all those threads asking where posters are and worrying about them. I didn't realise we were being rude.

there has certainly been a lot of nastiness aimed at me and at people with similar views to mine too, it's a public forum, it happens and GN is a cuddly rabbit compared to many social media sites.Less so now though, than a little while ago, I have to say.

sorry, that wasn't very clear..... Meant to say that GN seems better recently.

I think it’s a very different matter to post showing concern for someone who hasn’t been seen for a while Jalima and to bring someone’s name up as part of a disagreement. But I think you know that.

It wasn’t you Trisher It was a blue link .

Corbyn did not keep any avenues opened. He supported the IRA. He said when on his recent visit to N.I. He supported a United Ireland, no want to be PM should say this , the PM of the U.K. is PM for all including the people of N.I. Who want to stay part of the U.K. this statement alone shows he wants what the IRA wanted.

How can you give him credit for being part of it when he voted against it?

The nine Momentum applicants have been voted onto the NEC. Corbyn safe, democracy ? Wait for the posts saying democracy at it’s best . Nothing democratic in selling votes for £3 when long standing members pay in full.

that £3 membership policy was one of Milibands worse!

I support a united Ireland as well Annie. It seems to me totally ridiculous to draw a border across an island and pronounce them 2 different countries. And actually he talked to Sinn Fein who were and are a political party.

excuse a grin trisher but Gerry Adams and pals were leading the IRA, they were not just a cosy small political party.Corbyn invited IRA members to Parliament for a friendly cuppa just weeks after the Brighton Hotel bombing.

Silly me, as if Sinn Fein leaders would have any connection with the IRA

Corbyn attended a memorial service for deceased IRA members, but not for the innocent people who died in Omagh .

What of the people who want to remain part of the U.K. trisher?

Who's John McDonald?

I have heard of Corbyn's sidekick John McDonnell.

If that's who you mean, Annie, why do you call him by another name?

Because I can’t spell varian ? Or perhaps I choose not to? Take your pick. Sweet to see a lib defending s far left politician, but Clegg kept Cammeron in No 10