Serena’s “meltdown “

I might add don’t be so fucking presumptuous (as that adjective seems to be entirely acceptable)

Are you always this rude and argumentative Maryeliza with people who hold a different view from you ?

I thought we were all welcome on GN to say what we think even if it differs from others' views, but feel safe that we won't be verbally abused or sworn at.

Anyone please, a link to this cartoon

Well I for one really hope that the f word doesn't become acceptable on here . We are mature women who can, surely, express ourselves without resorting to obscenities.

Some still seem to be missing the point about how cartoon caricatures inevitably exaggerate physical characteristics, and as Serena Williams is a black African then that is how she is depicted.

If it had been, for example Maria Sharapova who had thrown a similar tantrum, then a cartoon of her would show her with exaggerated white, blonde haired European features, wouldn't it?

Would there have been howls of outrage and accusations of 'racism' in that instance?

No, of course not, because it's always one sided isn't it.

To answer your question NanKate - yes I think she is.

The colour of Naomi Osaka in the cartoon is not white. The umpire is depicted as white.
The reason Naomi Osaka is depicted with a blond pony tail is because she often has highlights in her hair, as she had on the day of this match.

May I add that the “f” word would not normally feature in my vocabulary, certainly not on GN so I apologise unreservedly to anybody I have offended by using it, apart from MaryEliza who is a) unlikely to be offended and b) sat up and asked for it

Her opponent (who is actually bi-racial) is drawn as a blonde haired woman asking the umpire to let Serena win, demonstrating that as an (attractive) white woman, she is the superior one in this relationship.

Actually craicon, it's the umpire in the cartoon who is asking the blonde player to let Serena win, thus not demonstrating at all that she is" the superior one in the relationship."

MawBroon Yes, you've got a point! I wasn't offended, but Gransnet is so much better than Mumsnet, as it seems every other word on that site is f or c .

Having said that I am not little miss goody two shoes. I ,like most people, let rip with the odd mild swear word when provoked.

If we are going to judge the cartoon, at least let's get it right.

annie Just google Serena Williams cartoon and it will come up.

Regarding caricatures, may I just mildly point out that no one complains when Teresa May is caricatured with an enormous pointed hook nose, which is actually very personal, or when Boris is shown as in a paper recently wearing a nappy.

Are you always this rude and argumentative Maryeliza with people who hold a different view from you ?

That would be a yes, NanKate.

I think I may be giving all this verbal ping pong a rest as it appears that my post of 16.22 has been deemed “aggressive” by the powers that be.

Do I need to reiterate that it was in reply to this meek, mild, diplomatic and polite request ?

maryeliza54 Thu 13-Sep-18 15:20:46
Damn well won’t Maw stop bring so fucking patronising

Sparkelfizz - I fear you miss the point about racism.

No need to fear, Iam64 or to be condescending .... I know exactly what racism is, thank you very much, as I have plenty of family experience.

Don’t find you aggressive at all Maw, the powers that be are wrong.

Maw you are never aggressive x

Maw
It speaks volumes about the standards at HQ that they let that foul rant stand and you get sent to the naughty step.

MawBroon Thu 13-Sep-18 18:42:18

I think that says a lot about GNHQ and whoever is making the decisions these days.


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Why is it acceptable from one poster but no other poster ?

I hope the poor child never has to witness such a tantrum or be in the path of one.

Me too. I do hope she becomes a two-year-old Queen of Tantrums.

I just think that Serena has come back too soon, has lost several matches and is not up to her usual standard. It's is not like going back to an office job - it takes time to regain the type of fitness required to be a top athlete.

More than anything else, I think she is angry with herself.

It's a pity she had to over-shadow some of the glory of Naomi Osaka, though.

I just Googled that cartoon. Surely it's a caricature? It certainly captured the tantrum which is what it was.

Thank you Sparke.

So that is the cartoon ? I think it funny , no way racist.

Serena is desperate to match Margaret Court’s record, pity she hasn’t the same calmness Margaret had.

SW was losing the match and then lost her temper. Her behaviour was a disgrace to tennis and Maw’s stats in her OP (I think) are correct.
My sympathy is entirely with Naomi Osaka whose first (let’s hope of many) Grand Slams was completely overshadowed by this prima dona.
I found the cartoon portrayed an African American having a tantrum and read no more into it. I think some on here, like on that court, are looking for racism.

I just Googled that cartoon. Surely it's a caricature? It certainly captured the tantrum which is what it was.
Yes, it is and it did.

It is no more offensive than those of McEnroe and Murray - and many others of very many prominent figures.