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Jacob Rees Mogg

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oldbatty Wed 12-Sept-18 13:43:48

I don't think it was fair to target his children but they don't really seem like ordinary folk do they?

varian Tue 23-Oct-18 22:09:53

This is not about anyone's religion. There is nothing in the Christian faith directing an MP to attack human rights, quite the reverse.

Jalima1108 Tue 23-Oct-18 22:43:18

JRM, man of faith. In that, he has stated that the British people should have the same faith as himself in believing this nation will have a wonderful secure future outside of the European Union.

Grandad, I thought that when we speak of his faith, we are referring to his Christian faith as a devout Roman Catholic, not his political beliefs.

Whether one agrees with his faith, religious or political, is a separate issue. And one can disagree with all of it or some of it without the man losing integrity.

Of course that is the case as Baggs states. If you disagree with his political views and you live in his constituency, then do not vote for him.

Baggs Wed 24-Oct-18 14:16:28

I think you need to be a little more precise, varian. He admitted (past tense) last year that his investment company profited from the sale of abortion pills in Indonesia whose law, he says, would satisfy the Vatican. The article you link to also points out that JRM has none of his own money invested in that fund.

Not quite such a cut and dried, black, evil, dishonest situation as you seem to be suggesting.

Baggs Wed 24-Oct-18 14:17:52

Quite what he meant by "would satisfy the Vatican" I don't know but I expect he knows what he's talking about, which some people on this thread clearly don't.

Anniebach Wed 24-Oct-18 14:24:22

Perhaps he means in keeping with the teachings of the RC church Baggs

Baggs Wed 24-Oct-18 14:25:36

I don't know the details of the investment that brings profits to JRM's investment company either but I imagine that people have invested in some kind of research and production of medical supplies which include, along with several (possibly quite a lot) of other treatments, the pill mentioned that is used in terminations.

I don't think JRM has done anything dishonest in this instance.

I would feel the same about any other politician whom I felt to be fundamentally honest, whatever the colour of their political leanings.

Baggs Wed 24-Oct-18 14:26:58

Yes, I would think so, annie.

Baggs Wed 24-Oct-18 14:31:17

I think you can trust a person's integrity even when you know that they will sometimes (possibly always) vote in ways that you disagree with politically. In fact, being able to predict how they will vote because of their political beliefs is, to me, a sign of integrity.

It's the swing voters, the ditherers, the changing with the tide voters whom one might not 'trust'.

Anniebach Wed 24-Oct-18 14:50:51

The likes of Nick Clegg who fought against the Tory government then joined forces with them to keep them in power, Who critcised Facebook often but is now packing up and leaving for America to work for Facebook.

Jalima1108 Wed 24-Oct-18 17:18:26

I think with Jacob Rees-Mogg what you see is what you get - obviously many don't like what they see but no-one is forced to vote for him.

varian Wed 24-Oct-18 18:52:32

Is Rees-Mogg authentic? Hah, no. Don’t be silly. But he’s fake in the right direction.

Like Trump before him, Rees-Mogg is so ridiculous and offensive and absurd that the thought goes he must be for real. Because who would lie about that? One thing the swivel-eyed zealots rarely do is flip-flop.

Rees-Mogg’s greatest hits include: suggesting Somerset have its own time zone; suggesting all council workers wear bowler hats; breaking the record for the longest word uttered in parliament (“floccinaucinihilipilification”, which means worthless); struggling to name a single pop song; speaking to a group that favours voluntary repatriation of black immigrants; wearing a top hat to Margaret Thatcher’s funeral; disputing climate change; voting against – deep breath – a bankers’ bonus tax, increasing the tax on those earning over £150,000, gay marriage, abortion even in cases of rape and incest and the 1998 Human Rights Act; and voting for private members’ clubs being exempt from the smoking ban... as long as they don’t serve food. He’s the least moral moral politician you could ever vote for.

www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/jacob-rees-mogg-comment

nigglynellie Wed 24-Oct-18 19:14:39

We live in a democracy and are ALL entitled to our opinions, however much other people dislike them.

Anniebach Wed 24-Oct-18 19:22:02

Speaking the longest word in parliment , wearing a top hat to a funeral, voting against a smoking ban in private clubs , are immoral ? And when was the vote on abortion, he has only been am M.p since 2010 . And my posts on Corbyn are called Corbyn bashing , too funny.

Anniebach Wed 24-Oct-18 19:24:44

A quote from GQ magazine , oh deary me

Jalima1108 Wed 24-Oct-18 19:57:15

suggesting Somerset have its own time zone;
Yay!! does that mean an extra hour in bed?
I'll vote for that.

Jalima1108 Wed 24-Oct-18 19:58:54

I take it you don't like him varian!

I must learn that word, it's a good idea to learn a new word every day.

POGS Wed 24-Oct-18 20:17:03

Re Jacob Rees Mogg and the Somerset Time Zone.

I Don't know if anybody is interested and I don't know if the link will work but if it does some might find it interesting.

Basically it is an interview with Jacob Rees Mogg on Daily Politics in 2012 explaining the ' tongue in cheek ' way he was trying to give a reason why he thought the ' Daylight Saving Bill' before Parliament was not liked. I think the crux of the objection is travelling to work in the dark .

www.google.co.uk/search?q=rees+mogg+somerset+time+zone&oq=rees+mogg+somerset+time+zone&aqs=chrome.0.69i59.11460j0j8&client=tablet-unknown&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

POGS Wed 24-Oct-18 20:21:20

Does this one bring up you tube?
confused
www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dn58wr9FVzO0&ved=0ahUKEwjVh-zc5Z_eAhUGa8AKHWkRARIQo7QBCCUwAA&usg=AOvVaw1r8nJeyM3O8lC4SWplzD4E

POGS Wed 24-Oct-18 20:28:17

Varian

The Bowler Hat comment was ' tongue in cheek ' too .

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16098623

" Jacob Rees-Mogg said he disapproved of granting powers to make it a criminal offence for someone not to hand over their name and address if accused of an offence like dropping litter.

Any official enforcing this should have to wear a bowler hat to show they were a "thorough-going bureaucrat", he said."

Chewbacca Wed 24-Oct-18 20:34:57

This pre occupation with what JRM calls his children, wears on his head, words in his vocabulary, which God he worships and how, is beginning to look like an obsession with some posters. It's a bit unhealthy, don't you think? hmm

Anniebach Wed 24-Oct-18 20:48:39

Baffling Chewbacca, to be so het up over the wearing of a top hat ? Perhaps worrying more than baffling

EllanVannin Wed 24-Oct-18 20:51:13

I like JRM he's got a brilliant sense of humour which lacks in most of the MP's. Shows that he's at least human.

Jalima1108 Thu 25-Oct-18 00:07:37

I remember watching a programme about that POGS - it was the building of the railways introduction of timetables which meant that time had to be standardised across the country!
He's just trying to draw attention to the PMB advocating moving the time forward to BST throughout the year.

" Jacob Rees-Mogg said he disapproved of granting powers to make it a criminal offence for someone not to hand over their name and address if accused of an offence like dropping litter.

Any official enforcing this should have to wear a bowler hat to show they were a "thorough-going bureaucrat", he said."

grin grin

Some people just do not 'get' his SOH.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 25-Oct-18 08:11:19

I would rather have JRM than Corbyn, Abbott or McDonnell any day.

oldbatty Thu 25-Oct-18 08:18:26

Oh Lordy, what a wit the man is.