Jacob Rees Mogg

I think he has a great sense of humour and is honest, something which couldn’t be said about Corbyn and he would never publicly use the ‘f’ word like McDonald, bet he wouldn’t use it in private either.

I like JRM

Well he's not my cup of tea but never mind.

Looks as if someone has punched McDonnel but it won’t have been JRM he’s far too polite.

Mogg is not honest. He lied in an interview on Channel 4 News when he said Corbyn voted against the Good Friday agreement. He did not. Even if you like Mogg and dislike Corbyn. you sbould not be so willing to believe that Mogg is honest.

JRM apologised for saying that.

Corbyn voted against the Anglo Irish Agreement , he wants a United Ireland hence his support for the IRA

Corbyn's well publicised support for the IRA tell us all we need to know about him and his beliefs.

Well he's not my cup of tea but never mind.

I'm just wondering why his children are not like ordinary folk and it got me wondering who is ordinary and what it constitutes.
Are my DGC ordinary - I rather hope not! I think they're extraordinary but that is probably just my opinion

Looks as if someone has punched McDonnel but it won’t have been JRM he’s far too polite.
Has he got a shiner?
Perhaps it was Esther McVey - oh no, I think she's too polite as well.

Perhaps Mogg has been reading his father’s (William Rees-Mogg) book on how to make money during an economic crisis? It might be the reason JRM is so keen on a hard Brexit.

“Blood in the Streets. The book that predicted the crash of 87 tells you how to make money in an age of economic crisis” by James Dale Davidson and William Rees-Mogg. Published 1987.

Ah yes, Esther McVey.

Who was it said she 'should be lynched' ?

Wasn't that a certain McDonnell?

I mean they look odd. There you go, chew on that.

I mean they look odd. There you go, chew on that.

I saw them doing 'The Floss' - a dance which my DGC do. Yes, very odd, I've tried doing it myself and I'm sure you'd think I look even odder.

I realise that you can get a mental picture of people from what they post

I wouldn't lynch McVey I'd make her live on the pittance that she thinks is acceptable for sick and disabled people for at least 2 years and then she might but only MIGHT understand why people dont like her .Toxic tory just like the one in Holyrood yesterday mother of 6 claiming child benefit and Child tax credits and SHE says people on benefuts shouldn't be allowed to have more than 2 children.Of course we KNOW that its a different rule for a tory!!Thankfully the rest of Holyrood apart from the tories totally disgree with her

paddyann

Do you believe Esther McVey is from a wealthy background ?

You sound as though you do.

Do you believe Esther McVey is from a wealthy background ?

From Wikipedia:

McVey, of Irish Catholic descent,[3] was born in Liverpool. She spent the first two years of her life in foster care as a Barnardo's child.[4] She was educated at the Belvedere School, before reading Law at Queen Mary University of London (LLB) and Radio Journalism at City University London (MA). In July 2009, McVey graduated with the degree of MSc (with Distinction) in Corporate Governance from Liverpool John Moores University, and also won the North of England Excellence Award[5] for her work.

From 2000 to 2006, McVey was a director of her family's Liverpool-based construction business J. G. McVey & Co. (run by her father)[6] which specialised in demolition and site clearance,[7] land reclamation and regeneration.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_McVey

Despite the unusual start to her life (First two years of her life in foster care?) It doesn't appear that McVey was brought up in in circumstances of poverty such as that experienced by benefit claimants (her family's construction business?)

Even this story doesn't quite paint the picture it thinks it does. Living on benefits is a step below money being 'tight' (and having to polish shoes and peel potatoes - poor lamb )

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6227627/Esther-McVey-tells-Tory-party-conference-spent-time-growing-care.html

So paddyann's comment seems quite fair.

Unless, POGS you have evidence to the contrary.

Isn't it entirely sensible to expect those on benefits to restrict their family? Why the hell should the taxpayer pay for other people's children?

Honestly, why is the concept of only having the children you can afford, so hard to grasp?

Do you honestly think life is neatly divided up into " the taxpayer" and " those on benefits"?

so true Oldbatty.

Jennifer, some have their children then life throws them a whammy and then they have to depend on benefits

The benefit system is meant to be a safety net.

It's not a lifestyle choice.

People with physical/mental disabilities and those who are ill should be able to claim benefits and a carers allowance when needed.

Maizie d

" Despite the unusual start to her life (First two years of her life in foster care?) It doesn't appear that McVey was brought up in in circumstances of poverty such as that experienced by benefit claimants (her family's construction business?)
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Boy your inverted snobbery is there for all to see.

She was indeed a Barnardo's child for 2 years , why do you think that happened?

If I have the correct facts it is my belief her father had jobs as an ice cream seller and scrap metal dealer but of course the fact the family now has a ' construction company' they are presumably seen by yourself and those who follow your line of thought as being some sort of wealthy class that should be knocked down irrespective of where they came from but more to do with where they are now.
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" She spent the first two years of her life in foster care as a Barnardo's child.[4] She was educated at the Belvedere School, before reading Law at Queen Mary University of London (LLB) and Radio Journalism at City University London (MA). In July 2009, McVey graduated with the degree of MSc (with Distinction) in Corporate Governance from Liverpool John Moores University, and also won the North of England Excellence Award[5] for her work."

And your problem with that is what Maizie d?

Again if I have the correct facts she was the first in her family to go to university and why is that a problem?

I don't have a problem with any of it, POGS and your assumption of my 'inverted snobbery' is utterly laughable.

All I am saying is that she was not brought up in the kind of 'poverty' which benefits claimants experience and giving evidence for why I think it.

As you presumably formed your opinion from the Daily Mail article I linked to (or something similar based on her speech) you will see that she was fostered because her very young parents couldn't cope (though what they 'couldn't cope' with isn't explained). Fostering does not equal poverty.

'Money was tight' doesn't equal poverty either. I expect quite a few of us older posters grew up in households where 'money was tight' (I certainly did) but don't consider that we lived in poverty.

MaizieD Fri 26-Oct-18 14:14:31

" I don't have a problem with any of it, POGS and your assumption of my 'inverted snobbery' is utterly laughable."
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I am very pleased to know you have ' no problem ' with ' any of it ' .

So what was your point if not to try and put the background of Esther McVey over as being unable to understand what it is like to live in a family living on a shoe string because she is from a wealthy background knowing that was not how her life started ?

I stick by Inverted Snobbery:-

' The attitude of seeming to despise anything associated with wealth or social status, while at the same time elevating those things associated with lack of wealth and social position. "

I can't stand the woman. The sooner she's ousted the better.

Of course it's right that those who are unable to work through some disability or other should get help from the state.

What is totally wrong are those who think it's their right to have as many children as they want, regardless of whether they can afford them or not.

After all the rest of us plan our families according to our finances.