Nasty Young Tories

Femi himself is not exactly from a deprived area or family.
His father is a doctor and Femi was educated at an independent, fee-paying school.

I think 'plum in the mouth' was probably not his term.
He may have discussed the point about immigration with 'Young Tories' but equally could have discussed immigration control with those in the NE who vote Labour and for Brexit who hold similar views to the YT.

Inverted snobbery is as rampant on this thread as stupid acts are amongst young students. Both are unattractive.

Quite a competition for the title of calling themselves 'The Nasty Party'.

Currently, despite this juvenile stupidity, I think my money is on Labour winning.

If some of their future employers see them on Facebook or similar,who is to say that those future employers might not also agree with the sentiment on the t shirt, and be more likely to give them a job, not less.

Young, daft, possibly a bit drunk.As others say, we all did stupid things when younger.
Doubt they will be doing the same when they are 35, with a family and a mortgage.

'Femi himself is not exactly from a deprived area or family.
His father is a doctor and Femi was educated at an independent, fee-paying school.'

the difference with Femi, is that he is talking sense and is very very well informed, ah.

What an odd thing to say Jura. It is only your opinion that he is talking sense and is very well informed.

oh no, not an opinion at all, he is. Whereas the Conservative kids at the Conference were talking non-sense. Facts are not opinions.

They were talking about the need to limit immigration. He gave them a clear solution- they replied that that would be perfect. He told them it was existing EU Law that the UK CHOSE not to implement. No opinion there from Femi.

Femi asking some young Tories with plums in their mouth
It was just that I wondered how some young people end up with a plum stuck in their mouth whereas others who come from a privileged background do not.

Perhaps sticking a plum in one's mouth is a pre-requisite of joining the Tory party.

And what plums have to do with questions about immigration. DH is most particular to always buy British plums.

Oh yes, I love British plums- miss our UK plum trees, a Czar and a Victoria- wonderful.

I thought we may get A Plum from our new tree this year but no luck.

But I'd agree plums are irrelevant, and their mention was not necessary. How plums can add to 'hatred' annie, is however beyond me ;)

Now back to the truth - was Femi telling the truth, or not. The answer is very simple and has indeed nothing to do with plums, British, or otherwise.

As for doing daft things when young, at a party or an outing- oh yes, been there, done that, and got a few t-shirts on the way ..

but THOSE t-shirts took some planning, probably weeks, and they were not worn at a kids' knees up, but VERY deliberately at a Conservative Party Conference. If you can't see the difference, well yes, prejudice indeed.

Young people, of all political persuasions--with, and without the pre requisite plums-- have, throughout history, made stupid decisions that they surely will regret at some point in the future. Those who would like to believe that only Conservative party youth members are guilty of this are as foolish and naive as the youngsters.

A Labour youth officer has sparked outrage online after she expressed 'solidarity' with North Korea.
Sarah Cundy, 18, is chair of Canterbury Momentum - a grassroots group which backs leader Jeremy Corbyn - and said she would 'rather have solidarity with North Korea than the USA'.
The teenager was criticised after a picture of the North Korean flag appeared on her Twitter page which she has since removed.

wonder if she had a plum

Twitter is not the official annual Party Conference ...

Now, North Korea, perhaps not, as for the rest, I do sympathise, actually.

Fury at ‘Arm John McDonnell’ shirts worn at Labour events: PressReader

YOUNG Labour activists wore t-shirts sold online calling for the Shadow Chancellor to be armed with an AK-47 at a rally attended by Jeremy Corbyn.
The t-shirts, created by an independent artist, show a Labour Party logo and John McDonnell holding a Kalashnikov – the Soviet-era rifle popular that became synonymous with terrorism.

They must be heartened to hear that they have your support

Trump must indeed be delighted he has got yours ;)

idiot

Many of us carried out stupid acts in our youth that we can all look back on and cringe at the thought. The difference between when many of the members of this forum were in their youth and today is social media.

Many of today's youth post the above acts on social media as a show of bravado to their online friends and peers. What they do not realise is that they have created a record for anyone to access even when those who made the post has long forgotten the event.

Many employers search social media sites looking for open accounts of those applying for jobs with their companies and in that witness and record what they post. My own company carries out the above, and it is truly staggering what can be found in those open accounts.

Those young Tories and others may regret their unwise acts at some point in the future when they least expect it.

However, as we all know, you cannot put an old head on young shoulders.

My goodness Grandad, I think that's the first time that I've agreed 100% with you!
You've said exactly what I, and several others, have been trying to explain to jura for a few days now but we don't seem to have been able to get that message across. I did try again, in my post at 18.52, to demonstrate that all young people, no matter what their political persuasion is/was, often make questionable decisions that they may well come to regret later in life. For my efforts I was told I was a Trump supporter!

But your absolutely correct that prospective employers do look at the open Facebook pages of applicants and they judge accordingly. I have some experience of this being in practice.

You're not your.

Grandad43
I agree


of course, my questionable acts are lost in the mists of time and not recorded for posterity (I hope).
What is on the internet will be there for ever.

In some ways, it's rather sad that some high jinks could prejudice a future employer's view and your job prospects, but this wasn't high jinks, it was just plain idiocy.
I hope they got taken to task.

It is not only what posters place on social media in regard to what they carry out themselves that can cause trouble in their lives Chewbacca.

People posting disparaging remarks about their employers or other employees they work with frequently bring about disciplinary action against them by those employers under the label of "bringing the company into disrepute".

My own company was requested to advise in a disciplinary hearing some months back by an employer when employee boasted on social media how by transgressing the safety and security regimes they could finish their night shifts much earlier than scheduled.

That incident not only brought trouble to the person who posted those remarks but also to those who worked alongside him.

I agree Jalima1108, at times the situations people ( especially young people) find themselves in because of posts on social media I at times find very sad.

But as I have stated, "you cannot put an old head on young shoulders". Having said that, I would certainly not wish to be starting out in today's modern environment.