No Deal and supply of medicines

Well I think, Maw, that Jura was referring to me when I told her she might as well chill.
I presume she thought that I meant the the Brexit issue was totally unimportant.
I don’t feel it’s unimportant at all, but we are brexiting. Fact.
There will be some problems. Fact.
As individuals we can do nothing. Fact.
We have to leave it to the negotiating team ( whatever we may feel about them) and trust that they have heard and understood the myriad problems that may crop up. Fact.
So why not chill? Not such a shocking concept.

That apology would appear to be for repeaing what somebody else said, (the “mithering” remark on the Aldi thread?) not the sentence many of us took exception to.

Ah, that too * Pamela*, hardly a shocking turn of phrase.

Chewbacca- nothing is a provable fact at the moment for Brexit - as no-one, not even the Government, seem to have a clue. What the links I have given, which you have so far refused to even look at ... show experts sharing grave concerns of what is possibly going to be consequences- should we end up with a 'no deal' or a bad deal.

Serious concerns are serious enough for many to be ...seriously concerned. That is not hysteria, or scare mongering -as many of you have called it- but the very possible reality in case of the above.

As I thought then.

Slippery little devils, facts.

Let's face it, the right wing clique would rally round and defend just about anything.

Now who or what do you define as the “Right Wing Clique” *oldbatty”?

Careful now oldbatty. Some on here will accuse you of being a "leftie" or even a Corbynista.

Has anyone on here, right, left, centre, upside down, Brexiteer, Remainer, abstainer, defended anything at all?

I'm not right wing oldbatty, far from it. But I do like to know when I'm being told a fact, and when I'm being told something that the OP "thinks" could happen. There's enough fake news flying around regarding world events without random grannies adding their own little bit of scaremongering as well. And in this particular case, it was rather a cruel and unpleasant bit of scaremongering too.

Very cruel Chewbacca

oldbatty ...oh dear!
jura isn’t a Labour voter you know ( maybe you don’t!)
Everybody who has said they don’t agree with her outrageous comments have different politics and voted in different ways at the Referendum ( and have said so, on past threads.)

I don't know jura, I don't know how she votes. I know your comment was rude.

Right wing clique..... Let's see.... Perhaps you would like to nominate yourselves.

and you're not rude oldbatty?

I don't know jura, I don't know how she votes.
You don't know how anyone votes unless they say, do you?

many have made it very clear that they have voted 'remain' or 'leave' irrespective of party affiliation.

I didn't bring up the subject of how people vote.

but is "left wing" or "right wing" not an indication of how one votes oldbatty?

"And in this particular case, it was rather a cruel and unpleasant bit of scaremongering too."
I agree Chewbacca. I've been very worried about this for some time, in fact I mentioned it last year in another Brexit thread.
It certainly doesn't help when someone adds to the panic, getting all melodramatic, running around like a headless chicken.

It suits today the weak and base,
Whose minds are fixed on pelf and place
To cringe before the rich man's frown,
And haul the sacred emblem down.

Marxism? Why?

So the links of the serious concerns by medical and pharmaceutical experts represent 'running around like a headless chicken'.

We could argue if it is better to ignore the issues, and put head in sand, in order not to worry people- or listen to the concerns of experts to try and mitigate the consequences?

Thas would be a valid debate. And I'd go for second option.

Agreed too that the Epipen crisis is not due to Brexit- but as we are an island, Brexit will make supply much more difficult- due to flying and port/transport issues- and low currency. If there is world shortage - will manufacturers sell to those which are easy to reach and who have a high currency to pay a higher price?

Insulin comes from the EU, and so do isotopes for radiation cancer treatment. They will prioritise their partners, and those within easy reach. They will not send nuclear material to those that are not direct partners. They both cannot be stored for long periods of time, so stockpiling can only be for short periods.

jura

These are some of your posts on the thread you started and I am not surprised flack followed.:-

" If you or your family need regular supplies of medicine- you should realise that 'mithering' about the price of baked beans or spam, wherever you choose to buy them ...maybe the least of your worries,"
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" It seems we have such a healthy ageing community on GN- so healthy and fit that none of them are concerned that medicines and cancer treatment, will be in short, or no supply if we get a no Deal Brexit.

They don't sell them at Aldi btw."
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" I am glad I will be able to get hold of Epipens for my grandson, who is highly anaphylactic to eggs. Not quite sure how I will get them over to him, as the Tunnel might close, the M26 will be a car park, ferries will be blocked, and no flights - but I will find a way. Better get some swimming practice.

I might even bring insulin for a relative who is a staunch Brexiter ... Won't be able to carry radiotherapy treatment for those with cancer though
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My very best friend here has just been diagnosed with cancer- and I am so so glad he lives here and will have access to the best treatment, medicines and if required raditation therapy.

Please, get in touch with any of your friends suffering from cancer- and tell them not to mither, crazily, or otherwise.
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" The Epipen current shortage may well not be due to Brexit - but the impossibility of importing Epipens from EU will be."
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" You should perhaps have the courage to go and tell mothers afraid their kid will not get their insulin, epipens or cancer therapy to chill- please do if you are brave enough."
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Jura you initiated this thread and it was you who initially used the word ' mithering' so if that word is repeated you only have yourself to blame .

As for your posts I think I will use your own words to another poster this morning .

" Those words were used to shock - and they are truly shocking with regard to the real issues discussed, and should have never been used. "

As for whether posters voted Remain /Leave, Left/Right has nothing to do with decency and I feel the old adage " If you say it, own it " is worth remembering.

It certainly doesn't help when someone adds to the panic, getting all melodramatic, running around like a headless chicken.
fennel absolutely right

And there is absolutely nothing we can do except rely on politicians and the experts such as those in the link.