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A leadership contest!

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ayse Wed 12-Dec-18 08:05:57

So now Mrs May is going to face a vote of no confidence! I find it difficult to believe that a political party would take this action at this time! She’s done well with this poisoned chalice and who could do better than she has?

Parliament has reached an impasse and is split just like the country.

This to my mind is a national emergency and maybe it’s time for a wartime style cabinet so that some consensus could be reached about the way forward.

What a mess!

nigglynellie Thu 13-Dec-18 10:54:49

As it is a fact that at times female MP's have been threatened with rape when they have dared to have an original thought in their heads that doesn't fit the general consensous, I fail to understand why Annies perfectly pertinent question should generate such outrage?! In answer, who knows, they probably will!!

GabriellaG54 Thu 13-Dec-18 10:55:05

I think that 09:07 last sentence was a poor question to pose and I'll say no more. I'm not the sort to report comments that I find concerning.

trisher Thu 13-Dec-18 11:04:04

Whatever the meaning of *Annie's comment it has one major error. Ms May won't be deciding anything, part of her clinging to power is the promise that she will not lead the party into the next election.The men in suits who have always run the Tory party will be busy deciding who gets the job. Mrs May is yesterday's woman.

nigglynellie Thu 13-Dec-18 11:05:29

Why was it concerning, bearing in mind the subject was the truth?!!

Anniebach Thu 13-Dec-18 11:08:34

trisher the men in suits run the Labour Party too. At least the Tory party has had two female leaders, Labour not one.

Anniebach Thu 13-Dec-18 11:10:28

niggly, seems some find speaking of rape threats to be disconcerting.

trisher Thu 13-Dec-18 11:48:55

Do they Annie? I believe the leader you despise so much was elected twice by members of the party and not by a small band of MPs (although a group did to get rid of him and failed).
I think some people find the use of rape, as a threat or other method of making a political point, as not only distasteful but disrespectful to those who have been the real victims of what is a terrible crime.

maryeliza54 Thu 13-Dec-18 11:55:15

Women in public life in general who speak out on whatever issues are subject regularly to rape and death threats usually on social media. If the women are black, the abuse is even worse. This has been going on for years - Criado-Perez who ran a campaign in 2013 to have a woman on a banknote had the most dreadful threats on social media. The subject of the abuse of women on social media is not one which should be used for cheap shots - women across the political spectrum ( and of no overt political persuasion) in the public eye suffer this and we as women should see it as an issue that should unite us in condemnation. Add colour and it’s even more dreadful - ask Diane Abbot and Gina Miler. And Michelle Obama and Meghan Merkle. Just let’s condemn all sexist and racist abuse on social media ( and elsewhere) and not differentiate between which women receive it.

maryeliza54 Thu 13-Dec-18 11:56:45

The idea that having had two female leaders is something to celebrate in a party is a form of sexism isn’t it?

Anniebach Thu 13-Dec-18 11:58:55

Is it ?

maryeliza54 Thu 13-Dec-18 12:04:01

Of course it is - it’s saying there’s something about their bring women per se that is a ‘good thing’.

Anniebach Thu 13-Dec-18 12:12:49

Is it?

Anniebach Thu 13-Dec-18 12:17:04

Saying the Tory party is run by men in suits is acceptable but saying a party has had two female leaders isn’t

From a supporter of a party run by Momentum and Unite !

maryeliza54 Thu 13-Dec-18 12:17:21

CBB if that’s your level of discussion ab.

Anniebach Thu 13-Dec-18 12:18:15

CBB ?

Urmstongran Thu 13-Dec-18 13:28:49

No wonder both Labour & Conservative are deeply split over Brexit. So are all of us! And schisms within families (don’t talk about it to keep the peace) and amongst friends (best not talk about it eh?). This subject is tearing us apart.

Bridgeit Thu 13-Dec-18 14:06:11

Annie I think it stand for Can’t be bothered, that could be a good thing?

Anniebach Thu 13-Dec-18 14:18:28

Thank you Bridgeit, yes a good thing ?

janeainsworth Thu 13-Dec-18 14:52:08

janeainsworth, tell ‘us’ ! What I mean or tell ‘you’ ?

We are all posting on a public forum ab and I think it’s reasonable to assume that I’m not the only poster who wanted to know what was behind your cryptic comment.
That’s why I used the first person plural.
If I’d wanted an exclusive reply, I could have PM’ed you.

Anniebach Thu 13-Dec-18 15:04:29

Yes janeainsworth, we can assume if we choose to

Lisagran Thu 13-Dec-18 15:21:19

Anniebach - I have to say I find your comment about female MPs possibly being threatened with rape appalling, insensitive and completely inappropriate.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 13-Dec-18 15:25:43

As do the female MP’s and party activists who have received these and other forms of odious threats.

It is not acceptable but it has happened over this year and I fear will continue to occur in this dississive political atmosphere.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 13-Dec-18 15:26:10

In reply to Lisagran

Nicenanny3 Thu 13-Dec-18 15:30:53

Take no notice Anniebach, actually I thought bullying and ganging up on a poster was not allowed on GN.

janeainsworth Thu 13-Dec-18 15:33:22

Commenting on posts and asking posters to clarify their meaning isn’t bullying or hanging up, nicenanny.