So no hope from Jeremy either?

Reeves amendment. Defeated

Chuka Umunna just interviewed, said the Tory party has been taken over by the right. Is he not aware the Labour Party has been taken over by the far left.

Iam I am switching over to watch Ben Fogle and 100 dogs

Oh I haven't seen that Annie, Ben Fogle and 100 dogs, sounds ideal for me.

Brady amendment. Accepted

Mrs May has asked Corbyn again to talks , this time he agreed

I’m watching the Top Dogs too! ?

POGS as I have stated I did not see any of the events in parliament before 6 pm this evening. However, from what I have been told the behaviour in parliament today was the worst ever witnessed in very many years, possibly ever in modern times.

The above I believe tells us all that the parliamentary system we have is totally unfit for purpose especially in a crisis such as that which faces Britain now. I have been watching the amendment votes take place this evening (29/01/19) and in that we have the antiquated system of MPs continually trooping off to be counted manually through "lobbies" which takes hours on end when a computerised system could have had the whole thing over within a few minutes.

This parliament also has an antiquated House of Commons chamber that is so crowded when all MPs are present that it does not even have enough seats to allow everyone to sit down. That I would believe is hardly conducive to easy tempers and good behaviour.

Also within the above, we have career politicians and others with no experience of any real-life life working environment outside of politics and parliament who it would seem do not even realise that should they have behaved as the did towards others today while in the employ of any organisation outside of parliament, they would be immediately dismissed under gross misconduct.

What a display to place in front of Britains younger generation and those in Europe that we hope will grant us a change to the Irish border situation.

Good grief, they must have put something in the water, but again you and I agree Grandad.

All the points you have made above are pertinent.

Corbyn ignored Angela Smith yesterday, she was interviewed on ‘ToDay’ this morning. Must admit this amused me .

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"What a display to place in front of Britains younger generation and those in Europe that we hope will grant us a change to the Irish border situation."
Much of it was shown live on France 24, which I often watch.
Probably in other european countries too. A disgrace and waste of time.
As for Corbyn - he's not suitable for this, he's a pacifist.

Grandad

Your latest post to me shifted the debate by bringing in the House of Parliament and related running of the House but with all due respect that has nothing to do with the 10 year rule proposal you brought to the table .

Yes you did mention 'career politicians ' in your post but you say nothing of those potential candidates of whom I have spoken about who will be ' excluded' from the Labour / Momentum Party ' IF' it were adopted in it's present form.:-

Nobody under the age of 28 presumably.

Nobody who has not been in employment for 10 years

Disabled who have not had employment for 10 years

Men/women who have raised a family whilst not in employment.

Anybody who has worked as an aid or researcher etc. in parliament because they are potentially the ' career politicians ' of the future that Labour/Momentum dislike so much.

Men and women who took an academic rather than employment route so have not 10 years employment.

There are other reason obviously why any rule that states candidates must have 10 years work experience would apply.

I would not mind betting ' IF ' the proposal were adopted as you posted there would be candidates for whom the rule would be put to one side / bent to suit !

Like Labour MP Harriett Harmans husband Jack Dromey winning an ' All female ' list in a safe seat.

Grandad

"What a display to place in front of Britains younger generation and those in Europe that we hope will grant us a change to the Irish border situation."
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I was certainly bemused by Corbyn and his continual incapability of thinking on his feet and reading from somebody else's script with same old mantra.

Watching Corbyn refuse to take an intervention from one of his own backbenchers and other parliamentary parties but as usual take ' 'safe ' interventions which are looking more and more as prearranged to me. I know they all do it but it is pronounced when it comes to Corbyn.

Mentioning points that had been clearly answered earlier by May.

The frustration of Corbyns behaviour during the debate , of which he was entitled to do, did cause frustration .

I am watching PMQ's as I scribe and if you think it is only one side of the house that is at fault of childish/unparliamentary behaviour then think again. Mind you if you follow the shenanigans of Bercow that is the impression one could easily get.

Was Bercow asleep?
Would Betty Boothroyd have allowed such puerile behaviour?

Bercow seems to wind the house up with his ‘put downs’ , he yells ‘order,order ‘. then belittles an M.P. This causes the other side to roar with laughter, winds up everyone up.

He's an AWFUL man and a disastrous speaker. Betty Boothroyd was professional to her finger tips and worth SO more than Bercow.

Bercow, who obviously loves his job and the sound of his own voice, does do a good job of defending parliament against the dictatorship of a government elected by a minority of votes.

POGS in regard to the Jenney Formby proposals on candidates for MPs having to have a minimum time of employment outside of politics and parliamentary system, then as stated the plan is in its early consultation stage within the broader Labour movement in the country. In that, and again as already stated, there will be many situations to foresee and objectively dealt with, and therfore It may be quite a number of months before any outline policy is ready to brought forward to be debated by the Labour Party conference.

For what it is worth, my opinion is that the Formby proposal is basically sound and the outline should be adopted for "firming up" into Labour party policy.

In regard to the be the behaviour of MPs in the House of Commons, then I cannot see where the performance of Jeremy Corbyn (good or bad) or any other MP who stands up to speak comes into the matter. They are are all supposedly mature adults in that chamber and therefore should act in accordance with the privilege of office that the electorate has granted them.

In the above, they should be prepared to listen quietly, and with respect, to what any other person in that chamber has to say. However, what the electorate and the World constantly witnesses is those in attendance turning Britain's highest legislation making authority into a close resemblance of a local Rugby Club Bar on a Saturday night in the 1970s

I believe that the whole parliamentary system along with the building that system it is carried out in requires consigning to the British history books and a new parliamentary system be brought into being from the ground up.

In that, much can be learned by looking to modern Parliaments overseas where members of those parliaments sit in a semi-circle around the executive at workstation type desks. From there the MPs can access relevant documents and information at any time, cast their vote at the end of any debate, all from the built-in computers at those workstations. They can also electronically inform the Speaker if they wish to address the house.

Bexit has demonstrated that our parliament and its system is totally unfit for purpose, and has grossly let the British electorate down while in the largest crisis Britain has faced in over seventy years.

Grandad usually the British sytem works quite well, not perfect but not the 1970s Rugby Club bar where politics was not on the agenda ( except South Wales maybe). Then a Referendum splits the nation and parliament, national pride and prejudices were aroused one side started calling the other traitors it all gets nasty.
Now it looks like neither side is going to get what they wanted, just an awkward compromise, the EU is built on compromise but the UK wants something different.
Well done David Cameron

Davidhs, with Barclays today announcing that they are moving billions of pounds in client assets to Dublin, the time of waiting for the British Government and Parliment to make some decisions seems to be rapidly passing as far as many companies in commerce and industry are concerned.

Barclay's have explicitly stated that they can wait no longer, and their "no deal" plans are now going into effect.

As you state Davidhs, well done David Cameron

Apologies I did not add a link to the above Barclays action. Link follows:-
www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-47060676

But this post is not about the dreaded Cameron- but the dreaded Corbyn. He could have opposed, he could have sought alliance with others to defeat- but he just sat on the fence. Because he is anti EU, and always will be.

I am more angry with him at the moment than Theresa May- at least she is traing hard to find solutions- even if I totally disagree with her. Corbyn is just smirking and ... sitting on said fence

jura2, Corbyn is following the policy set out by the Labour party Conference. In that, they stated the ambition of the Parliamentary Labour Party should be to seek a general election as a first priority, and if that is not possible to then consider a campaign for a second referendum.

However there is only one party that has brought Britain to the present crisis it faces now, and that is the Conservative party, for they have been in shared government since 2010 and sole government since 2014

Therefore jura2 there is no point in blaming Corbyn or the Labour party for the present state of this nation, for they have not been in power and therefore whatever their polices are makes no difference to the governance of Britain.

Tories that blame any other body for the crisis that Britain now faces are obviously just looking for excuses for their parties failures.

I agree Jura, the country in turmoil and he sits on the fence thinking only of the keys of No.10.

Rugby Club bar
Talking about bars - should the H of C be 'dry'?

How many other institutions have alcohol in their staff canteens so that the staff can imbibe during the working day or evenings?

I agree Jura, the country in turmoil and he sits on the fence thinking only of the keys of No.10.
Is he thinking of the good of the country or simply an opportunist?

Oh the irony:

www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg240.pdf

Jalima1108 Quote [ I agree Jura, the country in turmoil] End Quote.

Yes Jalima1108, and it was the Tory party that solely brought Britain into that turmoil. Perhaps they should have placed the good of the country before trying to settle long-running rows in the Conservative party,

If they had done that we would not be in this mess at all.