European Spring

Oh I see crystaltipps.

The UK will always be affected by what happens in other countries, as is/will every country in the world.

Out of the Federal States of Europe, which is what the French-German axis is aiming for we will be able to make uni-lateral decisions.

There isn’t a federal state of Europe and to think we can make decisions without a thought or care for other countries and what is happening there hasn’t happened for centuries. If the current apology for a government is anything to go by, I wouldn’t have any trust in their decision making abilities. So this belief that running our own trading arrangements means two fingers up to any other country is the stuff of UKIP dreams.

I agree crystaltipps. I'm afraid the propaganda re making 'our own' trading agreements is nonsense created to persuade the gullible. We are no longer a great power, we have many problems with our economy and the axis of power in the world has swung east. The Australians are a lot more interested in China and what's happening in the South China Sea and Indonesia than they are in trading with the UK. Similarly, the US who are pulling back from trading with the UK and Europe (unless it's totally in their interest, eg. chlorinated chicken), and from being involved in any more military support.

If we do not give a toss about other countries when we make laws, they will return the compliment.

Crystaltips/Monica

Nothing ' smug ' is going on if you are directing your posts to me .

I have not spoken about the UK/Brexit/
taking back control etc. because I was answering the OP :-

European Spring

" Do you think the ' EU ' tide is turning?

Well it seems we’re all in ‘uncharted waters’ now after last night.?

If the OP was intending to compare the Arab Spring with any “European Spring” there is none, because we are all democracies and can vote any administration out.
Macron in France was voted in on a wave of anti establishment sentiment but there is still a minority of “have nots” who want change and there probably always will be. In the UK we have full employment* yet a minority do not see the benefits of that and want change. Any violent disorder by a minority has to be controlled, by tear gas if needed.

* We must have full employment, we have 2 million plus foreign workers in the UK.

No, Crystaltipps except for the one I addressed to you none of my following emails had any reference to you in them. Generally my replies are based on the texts of the posts immediately above the one I am writing, without even noticing who wrote them.

We have benefited so much from our EU membership.

OK, this poll was taken last year, about two years after the ridiculous UK referendum, but it shows how wrong these leavers were then and still are.

"Two thirds of Europeans believe their country has benefited from being a member of the EU, the highest percentage since 1983 and an increase of three percentage points since the autumn.

In addition 60% of Europeans consider EU membership a good thing, according to the latest Eurobarometer published on Wednesday 23 May."

www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/headlines/eu-affairs/20180522STO04020/eurobarometer-survey-highest-support-for-the-eu-in-35-years