UK politics and Russian money

So would I, POGS, but there isn't one. Unless you care to start one?
In the meantime this will be a start.

Aaron Banks is the son-in-law of a Russian state official and his wife uses the numbers 007 in her email address. The family Range Rover’s numberplate was MI5 SPY.

Mr Banks’s pro-Brexit campaign was launched with funding from a prominent billionaire investor who originally made his fortune in Russia and went on to live on the Isle of Man, which is outside the European Union.

Mr Banks was in effect barred from working as a company director in Gibraltar after an investigation into his financial business there.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/arron-banks-profile-the-brexiteer-his-russian-wife-and-their-family-runabout-mi5-spy-nj00skhjk

Trump's first wife was born in the former Communist Czechoslovakia and his current wife in the Socialist Republic of Slovenia. Is that one way Putin pulls strings?

varian

Are you accusing the wives of Banks and Trump of something?

What exactly is it?

Who knows???

Varian

Well you must have a thought they have done something or you wouldn't have posted as you did.

Or is this another occasion where it is a case of ' Not my words '.

OK, possibly just a coincidence. But didn't Farage leave his Irish wife for a German wife, then leave her for a Russian girlfriend? - another coincidence maybe.

Varian

What is a coincidence? The fact they married non British women?

Now it is Trump, Farage and Banks you are lumping together and saying what?

Do you object to Eastern European women because that is a common denominator is it not?

You are accusing them of something is it marrying Eastern European women?

Putin's puppets may be controlled in many ways. It is well established that Putin succeeded in influencing the Trump election and the brexit vote. You might say that in spite of the Russian economy being a basket case, Putin is one of the most successful politicians in the world.

The evidence of Russian interference on social media and the internet is proven, but there may well be other means of influencing people who could help de-stabilise the West. Who knows?

Varian

'Putin's puppets may be controlled in many ways.'

' but there may well be other means of influencing people who could help de-stabilise the West. Who knows? '
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So are you now expanding your comments and saying the Eastern European wives of Trump, Farage and Banks are possibly Russian Infiltrators and that is why they have married them?

Is anyone sure that is definitely not the case?

Wife of former Vladimir Putin minister is major Tory party donor. The Conservative Party received hundreds of thousands from a woman with ties to the Russian president

inews.co.uk/news/politics/who-funds-conservative-party-donor-russia-vladimir-putin-link/

Millionaire Brexit backer Arron Banks eagerly pursued a multibillion-pound gold deal brought to him by a Russian oligarch with links to the Kremlin just months before the EU referendum, Channel 4 News can reveal.

Business associates of the self-styled “bad boy of Brexit” offered to oversee a plan to create a massive new Russian gold company, and tried to arrange a personal meeting in Moscow with key players from a state-owned Russian bank.

Mr Banks has denied that he sought to pursue investments in Russia and played down his contacts with Russian officials.

MPs from the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport committee said last year that he had given more than £8m to the Leave campaign – the biggest political donation in British history – but had “failed to satisfy us that his own donations had, in fact, come from sources within the UK”.

Banks, who has backed Ukip, Leave.EU and other Eurosceptic groups is now being investigated by the National Crime Agency over the source of his political donations.

A Channel 4 News investigation can reveal for the first time how a finance company substantially owned by Banks drew up a business pitch for a Kremlin-linked oligarch called Siman Povarenkin to merge six Russian gold miners into a single company.

Five months before the referendum, the finance company suggested that Banks travel to Russia to meet executives at state-owned bank Sberbank to hurry the deal along.

Associates of Mr Banks even identified a shell company, based in Sweden, to be used as a vehicle for the deal.

Russia experts have told Channel 4 News that the document suggests Mr Banks and his associates expected the funding to come “one way or another from the Russian government”.

Under Mr Putin’s presidency, the Kremlin has been accused of backing Brexit and launching covert operations to affect the outcome of national elections in the US and elsewhere.

A former British intelligence official said the approach to Mr Banks had the hallmarks of a Russian influence operation.

www.channel4.com/news/the-banks-files-how-brexit-bad-boy-arron-banks-was-eyeing-a-massive-russian-gold-deal

Is Switzerland a paragon of virtue when it comes to who's /what /where money is stashed ?

I think that if we are talking about harbouring 'dirty money' POGSthen nowhere is more expert at this than Switzerland!
Didn't the original trail lead to Switzerland?

Trump's first wife was born in the former Communist Czechoslovakia and his current wife in the Socialist Republic of Slovenia. Is that one way Putin pulls strings?
Oh dear, where does that place me?
We have relatives from former Communist countries.

Conspiracy theory varian

I thought you were better than that.

My neighbour is Russian - should I stop speaking to her?

Jalima

If she votes Tory you are doomed.

Do you remember when Corbyn was trying to deflect from his defense of Russia over the Skripal Poison's and brought up Russian Tory Donations?

As Theresa May replied to Corbyn in Parliament:-

" People should not "tar with the same brush" everyone of "Russian extraction" in the UK,"

You might have a very nice Russian neighbour, Jalima You needn't stop speaking to her unless you find she associates with Aarron Banks, Steve Bannon, Nigel Farage, Robert Mercer or Vladimir Putin.

Michael Portillo, a staunch leaver speaks Russian.
He was also once Secretary of State for defence ?

I really like Chicken Kiev and Vodka - am I doomed??

Russian trolls sent thousands of pro-Leave messages on day of Brexit referendum, Twitter data reveals

www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2018/10/17/russian-iranian-twitter-trolls-sent-10-million-tweets-fake-news/

Good news! Theresa May has a backer for her Brexit deal. Bad news: it's Putin

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/good-news-theresa-may-has-a-backer-for-her-brexit-deal-bad-news-it-is-vladimir-putin-1-5826720

It is said Russia influenced / hacked / used Trolls to influence the United States , German , French , Italian etc. Elections.

So why has nobody looked at the UK General Election in 2017? If Putin had an Ally anywhere in the west it could be thought certain UK politicians would fit the bill.

Once again what started as an interesting political topic to discuss has ended up with the usual suspects sniping at each other.

POGS I will not respond on things which are not relevant to Brexit. This is not the place. I am not critizing the UK Government per se- but this particular Referendum which has been proven to be fraudulent in many many ways. So I'll stick to that. You wrote:

'Indeed Switzerland does hold many Referendums but the Swiss Government cannot enact some Referendum results if the EU says ' No', ' No Cherry Picking '. '

It is not a question of not being able to enact the February 2014 Referendum on limiting Freedom of Movement, as agreed in our reciprocal agreements with the EU.
The Swiss Government looked at the possible consequences, for our economy, industry, innovation and research programmes, which are all EU linked, and so much more, and realised it would be folly to implement it- especially as there was a tiny majority.

It had the choice to implement, and pay the price on all the above - the EU didn't stop them at all. They just said 'you makes your choice, you pays the price' totally rightly and fairly- No Cherry picking has to apply to all- be it Switzerland or UK. Fair and correct.