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Breakaway Labour MP’s

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Anniebach Mon 18-Feb-19 08:35:57

A small number of back benchers will announce they are leaving the party this morning.

Chuka Umunna is one who may be among them.

Anniebach Mon 18-Feb-19 17:47:26

Rowantree I am never done with anti semetism or any racism , i have always spoken out against it and never make excuses for anyone who is racist

Mycatisahacker Mon 18-Feb-19 17:50:27

Granted he’s been a bit shit over brexit

The biggest challenge facing our country since WW11 and you,who obviously thinks he walks on water,says this?

Jesus Christ my bar of what I expect from s politicsl keader and potential PM is a lot higher than yours then.

Mycatisahacker Mon 18-Feb-19 18:23:17

If he had stuck to his principals he would have campaigned for leave and to leave NATO!

his principals are a movable feast.

Tbf I think the old Trotsky is so stupid and politically naive that he didn’t really understand that momentum would propel him into the leadership and he is quietly petrified that he could one day be PM and then actually have to deliver on his unicorn promises to all rather than protest like he has all his adult life.

Honestly if I didn’t love my country so much It actually would be funny to see him as PM.

grannypauline Mon 18-Feb-19 18:23:43

So...How have the 7 voted in the past? Often for good and laudable policies BUT they also voted like this:

Luciana Berger: FOR Iraq War and AGAINST Iraq War Investigation: FOR Trident replacement; mostly FOR University Tuition fees.

Chris Leslie: FOR Iraq War and AGAINST Iraq War Investigation: FOR Trident replacement; mostly FOR University Tuition fees.

Angela Smith: AGAINST Iraq War investigation; FOR Trident replacement

Gavin Shuker: AGAINST Iraq War investigation; FOR Trident replacement

Ann Coffey: FOR Iraq War and AGAINST Iraq War Investigation: FOR Trident replacement; mostly FOR University Tuition fees

Mike Gapes: FOR Iraq War and AGAINST Iraq War Investigation: FOR Trident replacement; mostly FOR University Tuition fees

Chuka Ummuna: FOR Iraq War and AGAINST Iraq War Investigation: FOR Trident replacement

The Labour Party has moved to the left of their positions and if their local parties no longer support their voting patterns, then they are right to step down and they should stand as independents.

Mycatisahacker Mon 18-Feb-19 18:24:03

Not funny to see poor old Di as home sec though. God help us all.

Anniebach Mon 18-Feb-19 18:26:56

Tom Watson said ‘ I love my party but at times don’t recognise it

news.sky.com/story/more-labour-mps-could-leave-party-deputy-leader-tom-watson-admits-11641350

Day6 Mon 18-Feb-19 18:29:37

That is interesting Granny Pauline. Thank you. Very much Blairites.

Urmstongran Mon 18-Feb-19 18:29:47

So, this Less than Magnificent Seven left without a vote, have left their constituents without an elected Labour representative, and are refusing by-elections in their wards. Worse, they are ignoring the Referendum result and are insulting the nation's electorate by pushing for a new "People's Vote."
What this group understands about democracy could be written on the back of a postage stamp. And now they're asking for our support, money and membership!? No chance.

Mycatisahacker Mon 18-Feb-19 18:30:24

I know Anniebach

I though he sounded very sad very eloquent and I think he may go. He’s a good decent labour man. Proper labour like kinnock and John Smith.

This lot not fit to wipe his boots.

He must be very very conflicted tonight.

Mycatisahacker Mon 18-Feb-19 18:32:18

thank you very much Blairites

Says it all that is arrogant nasty unpleasant and stupid in momentum today. I can’t say labour because they are not.

Anniebach Mon 18-Feb-19 18:33:22

grannypauline how could Luciana have voted for the Iraq War, 2003, she became a MP in 2010

maryeliza54 Mon 18-Feb-19 18:36:05

Good post Urm

Mycatisahacker Mon 18-Feb-19 18:39:23

Anniebach

Don’t let the facts get in the way of the vitriol. They arnt institutionally anti Semitic either

Day6 Mon 18-Feb-19 18:41:44

Let's face it, the Labour Party was established decades ag, alongside the Unions to represent the workers - or working class.

What exactly do they support today that other parties don't, apart from nationalisation? We have become more enlightened, society has changed and most parties have moved with the times. Human rights are important to all.

It would seem to me that Labour has had to reinvent itself and find a cause so the hard left has taken over, alienated a lot of moderate MPs and traditional Labour voters, but recruited the young with it's Marxist ideals and now stands for rebellion and the over-throwing of the establishment.

And Corbynites, please spare us the food banks, NHS and homeless people diatribes - causes to rant - because every politician would say those, alongside the environment, transport, education and housing are cause for concern.

Does the ordinary working man need Labour any longer? I say this, coming from a staunch Labour background. "Traditional Labour values" are held by all modern parties. I think the Conservative Party has now become the party fo common sense, thanks to Momentum hijacking Labour and turning it into the party for rebellion. It has become too scary and volatile and controlled (by the hard left) for many middle of the road working class voters, who want fairness and common sense to prevail.

Just what IS Labour about now???

Jalima1108 Mon 18-Feb-19 18:42:04

grannypauline how could Luciana have voted for the Iraq War, 2003, she became a MP in 2010
where's maryeliza when you need her?

Mycatisahacker Mon 18-Feb-19 18:42:11

GrannyPauline

Your post is factually incorrect do you want to correct it?

Mycatisahacker Mon 18-Feb-19 18:43:17

jalima grin

Anniebach Mon 18-Feb-19 18:44:19

Yes Mycatcisahaker like Kinnock , Smith and Brown

maryeliza54 Mon 18-Feb-19 18:45:15

mycatand Jal didums

Mycatisahacker Mon 18-Feb-19 18:46:55

Day6

I do apologise I misenterpreted your Blaire post please accept my apology.,I agree totally with your last post

Mycatisahacker Mon 18-Feb-19 18:48:17

didums

No idea what that means. Can you not debate?

Jalima1108 Mon 18-Feb-19 18:48:29

Jal didums
grin

I know you like the facts to be correct maryeliza

Anniebach Mon 18-Feb-19 18:48:57

And Chuka who it is claimed voted for the Iraq War 7 years before he too became an MP

Jalima1108 Mon 18-Feb-19 18:49:01

actually, so do I
(see other thread)

Mycatisahacker Mon 18-Feb-19 18:52:01

Anniebach

Exactly strong proper labour leaders with principals and a strong moral and ethical backbone.

Kinnock kicked out militant tendancy. Proper brave good labour man. John smith died very sadly. Brown suffered from his personality but he is a good decent labour man.