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Urmstongran Fri 01-Mar-19 09:42:15

Any fellow Leavers who would like to use this thread to post GOOD NEWS (away from Remainer doom & gloom)?

How about this for starters:

Norway’s $1 trillion (£753 billion) sovereign wealth fund – among the world’s most respected investors – has just confirmed it will boost its UK holdings. “Over time, our UK allocation will increase,” said Yngve Slyngstad, the Norwegian Fund’s CEO. “With our 30-year-plus time horizon, current political discussions don’t change our view,” he added, reaffirming his commitment to Britain even in the case of a no-deal Brexit.
This kind of clear-sighted, grown-up analysis contrasts starkly with the endless doom-mongering we get from subsidy-hungry politicos at the CBI. It’s precisely because Britain will thrive after Brexit that we attracted record foreign direct investment last year, beating the US, with only China attracting more. Even British start-ups raised almost £8  billion in venture capital during 2018 – some 70 per cent more than their French and German counterparts.
Boeing has opened its first manufacturing plant in Europe – in Sheffield. Technology-driven investment is piling in – not just to London but to Manchester and the North-East too. And, as Brexit-bashing stories about planes not flying are trumped by reality, investors from China to the Middle East are flocking to a country just judged by Forbes magazine as the “best place in the world to do business” for the second year in a row.
Yes, overseas investors are taking advantage of the weaker pound, which makes UK assets look attractive. But that’s how exchange rates work – which is why Europe’s monetary union is so crippling for many of its members.

Sorry for the long post but I’m not keen on links!

Urmstongran Mon 11-Mar-19 23:10:22

Tomorrow will be interesting.
Will this be good enough? We shall see.

?

Day6 Mon 11-Mar-19 23:13:59

Fingers crossed Urmston.
Any deal which frees us from the EU, saves us billions every year, and solves the Irish border problem will be a huge breakthrough.

Lyndiloo Tue 12-Mar-19 02:28:34

I don't think that Teresa May will get her deal through Parliament tomorrow. And from lots of MPs thoughts, it's a bad deal for Britain, anyway. Go for 'No Deal', I think. That, at least, would get us OUT! No strings, no 39 billion! Sounds good to me!

Labaik Tue 12-Mar-19 06:58:31

But it doesn't solve the Irish border problem; it just kicks the can down the road, doesn't it ?

crystaltipps Tue 12-Mar-19 07:09:45

Forget about saving billions...it’s going to cost that much to clean up this mess for the next 50 years.

crystaltipps Tue 12-Mar-19 07:26:53

May is trying to unite the Tory party not the country. May’s agreement isn’t a deal, it is an exit agreement and will mean years more of torturous negotiations, that’s provided it gets through, no certainty in that. Those who believe it will be all over on March 30 shouldn’t hold their breath.

andycameron69 Tue 12-Mar-19 07:52:30

all be fine on 30th march, a great day for my beloved Britain

Alima Tue 12-Mar-19 08:15:52

You appear to know a lot about all this chrystaltips, been at the tea leaves again?

BlueBelle Tue 12-Mar-19 08:23:06

Oh dear, Andy are you related to David you sound similar in name and intelligent sentences
It’s like someone in the middle of a motorway pileup saying don’t worry we will be fine all the other cars will crash but we ll be fine

BlueBelle Tue 12-Mar-19 08:25:51

When quoting the 38 million, no one ever balances or accounts for the many more millions we received from the EU
I worked for fifteen years in a job that would never have been born if it wasn’t for EU money

andycameron69 Tue 12-Mar-19 08:33:31

LOL at "tea leaves"

hilarious indeed

andycameron69 Tue 12-Mar-19 08:38:33

all will be fine with wto no deal

Treason May's deal is remain and bad for Britain.

she is a liar and a traitor

GabriellaG54 Tue 12-Mar-19 09:03:59

?Here we go - here we go - here we go - tra la la dee de de...dum de dum ??????????????

crystaltipps Tue 12-Mar-19 09:16:03

Anyone with half a brain, let alone a teacup, will know this isn’t a deal it’s only the start of more negotiations.
As we’re in singing mode
? Oh give us a deal
Oh give us a deal
Not just another one
Just like the other one
Oh give us a deal ?
?

Urmstongran Tue 12-Mar-19 09:17:12

I’d like to think so GG54 but we have to wait for the meaningful vote tonight on this WA. I will celebrate this evening IF it gets through!

It might.
Cynical I know, but last time these duplicitous MP’s (on both sides of the House) voted it was about ‘the deal’.

This time it’s more about their jobs.
?

Urmstongran Tue 12-Mar-19 09:21:07

We do of course realise it’s just the beginning of a long process.

But at least we will be OUT!

17 days to go.
??

It’s a compromise of course. Analysts are saying it’s 65% out. But the psychological impact is huge.

crystaltipps Tue 12-Mar-19 09:23:21

As long as it pleases some people. Sod the rest of us. ??

GabriellaG54 Tue 12-Mar-19 09:50:17

crystaltipps
No, we aren't saying 'Sod you' to remainers.
The boot could have been on the other foot and I hope that we who voted 'leave' would not be so sour about the result.
The winner of any race doesn't sod the others who come 2nd, 3rd or anywhere else in the line-up.
Leaving, is about taking back our identity as a nation. Not being beholden to diktats from the two countries who have us by the short and curlies.
We need to build ourselves up again and not have to go cap in hand to the Masters in Brussels.
Leaving will be good for us in the long run. Divorce is rarely easy and there is often bad feeling on one side or the other but, being free to run one's own life, rather than under the umbrella of some overweening, overpaid, unaccountable 'dictators', will be beneficial to all of us.
I hope that those of you who voted to stay within the EU will not turn it into a tug o' war but will pile in to make the best of this place we call home. grin

Joelsnan Tue 12-Mar-19 09:52:49

crystaltipps
That's democracy.

Urmstongran Tue 12-Mar-19 10:02:15

We are not over the line yet. I don’t like to count my chickens.... Theoretically, it could be all over today if the Prime Minister has managed to change the Withdrawal Agreement in a significant way from the deal defeated in January by a record 230-vote margin.

Let’s see what happens at 7pm tonight. I’ve got some fizz chilling .... in hope!

Urmstongran Tue 12-Mar-19 10:09:38

May has blinked.
The pound has risen.
Juncker is smiling.

It MIGHT be enough.

Everyone is waiting for Geoffrey Cox’s analysis.
If it’s acceptable to the DUP & the ERG then it may well get over the line tonight.

Bridgeit Tue 12-Mar-19 10:24:01

I have never felt that I have lost my identity being in the EU,further more what is our identity?
Tolerance, Fairmindeness ,compassion yes,.?
Or are we back in the mindset of Empire ? where we believe we are better than others & still beleive that the rest of the world can’t wait to do our bidding.
In an ever changing, unstable world a wise person stays close to those they know & understand
A reality check is on the horizon for sure.

GrandmaKT Tue 12-Mar-19 10:28:13

Lyndiloo it is a mistake to think that if we go No Deal we will not have to pay some or indeed all of the 39 billion. This is the amount that the UK and EU have agreed is owed for projects already committed to.
If we refuse to pay, the EU could take us to court for payment ( so add court costs to the initial amount!)
Also, think about the implications for future trade deals. Would you get into bed with a country that refuses to pay its debts?
www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-can-we-avoid-paying-the-39-billion-brexit-divorce-bill

Urmstongran Tue 12-Mar-19 10:38:06

So in the Graun this morning, this from Leo Varadkar:

“Addressing the media in Dublin last night, the taoiseach welcomed the agreement reached between the UK and the EU as “positive” and urged the House of Commons to vote for it on Tuesday night to lift the “dark cloud” of Brexit.

The taoiseach did not call the backstop “cast iron” and “bulletproof”, as he did in December 2017, comments that played well in Ireland but angered Brexiters.

“The further texts agreed yesterday provide the additional clarity, reassurance and guarantees sought by some to eliminate doubt or fears, however unreal, that the goal of some was to trap the UK indefinitely in the backstop. It is not. Those doubts and fears can now be put to bed.

Behind the Irish government’s outward calm one official said there was deep anxiety and nervousness that Westminster will reject the deal, putting the UK on course for possibly leaving the EU without a deal, and that Ireland’s insistence on the backstop will be blamed.

Lisa Chambers, Brexit spokesperson for the main opposition party, Fianna Fáil, said the EU had granted some leeway to May. “It’ll be that little bit easier for the UK to exit the backstop,” she said.

Ginny42 Tue 12-Mar-19 10:44:43

OMG Urmstongran - if it is acceptable to the DUP and the ERG? WTF kind of thinking is that just to get your own way.

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