Misreading the country?

And today we hear that Grayling as transport .minister has lost many millions more!
Utterly farcical!

I know, I know - and yet- had a good laugh today watching the massive band of marchers following Farage- only 350 (NOT million) signed up for his epic walk- and a lot less actually turned up. Somehow momentarily cheered me up no end.

And is this true- Farage has not turned up either ?!? wow

jura2
Well, if he didn't turn up he's got an excellent stunt double as there are pictures of him starting the march.

But he climbed straight back into the bus once the march had started, petra. And has said he has no intention of doing the whole thing.

twitter.com/northnews/status/1106863830439809024

Mind you, I have doubts about most of this morning;s starters actually finishing the day. 20 miles is a very long way for inexperienced walkers.

news.sky.com/story/nigel-farage-will-not-complete-brexit-betrayal-march-despite-urging-supporters-to-join-him-11666858

Nigel Farage says he will not be completing the 200-mile Brexit Betrayal march from North East England to Westminster despite asking supporters to join him.

Launching the event last month, the former UKIP leader tweeted: "We're marching from Sunderland to London... get your walking boots on!", but now admits he will walk only "some of it."

Mr Farage, an MEP, said the event was to show "the political class" that voters will not put up with a delayed Brexit.

The march set off from Sunderland, with Mr Farage leading it amid chaotic scenes.

news.sky.com/story/nigel-farage-will-not-complete-brexit-betrayal-march-despite-urging-supporters-to-join-him-11666858

It will be interesting to see how the numbers on this march compare with the numbers on the next People's Vote march on Saturday 23rd March.

Marks the end of a very bad week I feel for the leavers. It would now seem they are reliant on the European Union not agreeing to an extension of artical 50 if there is to be any chance of the UK withdrawing from membership of the EU on the 29th of March.

There is quite some irony in the above I feel when those that wish to leave the European Union become reliant on the EU to assist their cause.

Brexiters lobby for European veto of article 50 extension

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/13/brexiters-lobby-for-european-veto-of-article-50-extension

varian.....unless the Remainer march on the 23rd propose to walk 200 miles there is no point comparing numbers..All they have to do is take a bus or car or train to central London.
I have no time for Nigel Farage but do understand how many people feel about Brexit.

It is clear that Farage has no intention of walking 200 miles, in fact it does not look like any of his sorry band will. They'll be bussing it for some of the way. This is a fake grass-roots march, funded by the ultra-rich brexit elite.

We will see how many people feel about brexit in London on March 23rd.

......but they won’t be walking either varian FGS.

Most people who voted Leave won’t be ‘marching’ anywhere, we have no need to.
It’s not a contest you know.

I realise that there is no comparison between the two marches but had there been a huge appetite for a Leave that looks quite endangered ATM I'd've expected a few more than 200 people to have turned up for a big gesture on the first day of Farage's pseudo march...

Probably because most Leavers aren’t enamoured of Nigel Farage and UKIP.
Nor are most only interested in a no deal either.

Which goes to show that the referendum result was totally flawed because the leave voters were all voting for different things.

I don’t think Leave is at all endangered MaizieD and besides, it’s raining ☔️ so why turn out!

Is it a bad week for the leavers grandad? You may be right.
Such a shame that our hopes are pinned on the E.U.? Our parliament has made a bit of a balls up of it. On that we agree.
However we and Mrs May will prevail we hope.

I wonder if, and when, this is all over will we all be able to reconcile? The anger and the feeling of betrayal on both sides appears to run very deep. We still have the future relationship to negotiate/decide and I think that will be even more divisive.

Remainer or leaver, before the referendum most people trundled along quite nicely regarding the EU. Now, who knows? Will it be the promised land? We will see.

hi lemon and urmston, always good to see your uplifting posts

its friday yay

oh wow lol, how wrong you are andy, how wrong ;)

I'm a dedicated Leaver but it is obvious marches and demonstrations achieve nothing. There are scores of marches through London every year. The rascals in government and Parliament just ignore them. Marches and demonstrations achieve nothing and are forgotten in days.

Brexiteers believe in the ballot box, not pointless demonstrations.

If the brexiters believe in the ballot box, no doubt they are all looking forward to the chance to vote again.

In your dreams varian we’ve not even implemented the last one yet.

The government has indeed "implemented the last one" . For almost three years they have been treating the result of that referendum as an instruction, whereas it was, in law, only advice.

They have done everything possible to find a way of delivering the unreal undeliverable promises of the cake-and-eat-it leave campaigners and to try to square the circle of the Irish border.

They have now proved conclusively that it cannot be done. Any brexit would harm the country, make us all (or nearly all) poorer, endanger our security and reduce us to a third-rate nation scrabbling around the world for trading partners who might allow us to trade on their terms. We've all had enough of that implementation.

Don't tell me the referendum wasn't democratic. Its seen as democratic , that's why it happened. And everyone campaigned. Remainers didn't campaign against having a referendum at the time. Never forget that. They followed the law , and campaigned to remain. And lost.

They have to live with that or risk destroying democracy 'for the greater good.' Which means to help the capitalist system remain intact forever. I prefer a poor representative democracy full of idiots than no democracy at all run by people you or I happen to agree with.

Why aren't Leavers jumping up and down at the prospect of being able to win a second (honest) referendum, proving their point and gloating?
Could there be just a glimmer of doubt? Does the prospect of losing even exist on planet brexit? Or in a.c. world?
I don't care if it takes longer. I care more about a sensible deal.
Never mind, in a few years it probably won't concern us Scots.
Bear in mind we've been reasonably patient for a lot longer than we've endured the brexit fiasco.
Sensible folk welcome to join us in the north!