Good News about Brexit! ✅

Urmstongran
Some find pleasure in being obtuse like teenagers.
You keep handing out RECOMMENDS in your polite and cheerful way.

Urmstongran you endorsed GG54's post with a recommend. GG54 stated "If you have a secure job to go to and enough money to sustain you and anyone who comes with you so you are not a drain on the taxpayers of the country you seek to live in...that is good and right." Lily asked what about asylum seekers and refugees who are not legally allowed to work, I'd also ask where do they fit in with GG's rules?

How on earth can one derive an insult from the words "take a recommend" ! What a lovely story Urmonstgran about your Mum and Dad

unless you want to have chlorinated chicken, be beholden to the US and lose any power that we might still have

Project Fear yet again. Worst case scenario, doom, gloom, all is lost etc, etc, etc. <sigh>

I remember how exciting it was when we entered Europe: a whole new world opened up

What? We have ALWAYS been in Europe. We are Europeans. The UK will remain in Europe but not be in the EU.

It is still there for us if we leave a TRADING AGREEMENT which has morphed into a political union with all the power being held in Brussels and the ultimate aim being a European super state. It is far more than an economic union.

By the way, you can still be exited about Europe. It's not going away. If you love the mix of cultures, people traditions, architecture, history etc, carry on enjoying them. Be assured, British tourism is important to Europe.

*excited

Ah thank you Joelsnan and Nico your endorsements are very sweet. Thank you.
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And why would I not recommend GG54 as she, to me, speaks sense.

Unless I’m being obtuse (it’s been a long day) if refugees are legally not allowed to work then I presume the government look out for them until their status is decided. I imagine that’s a tiny percentage of our population and clouds the main argument!

Urmstongran the government don't have any finance except that taken from taxpayers, therefore they would be a drain on taxpayers. The percentage is irrelevant, from what she says GG would not want them here. Personally, I'd rather take a more compassionate attitude.

We agree then Janpax such a negligible number of people. Not worth getting our knickers in a twist over considering the main argument. We can afford to be generous.

janipat. Oops!

Ahh I get it now -take a recommend -is a cowardly way of insulting another person

No, it means the opposite Bridgeit!

recommend = recommendation using for honours

usually, not using!

janipat
The majority of countries around the world control who enters the country, many much firmer criteria than UK. All however do have special conditions for claimants of asylum or refugee status until their claim is approved or disproved. Despite all of the doomsayers on this site the UK is perceived (as what Dick Whittington thought ) a gold paved utopia to many potential economic migrants. Whilst working abroad the question I got asked most was my nationality, usually followed by 'how do I get to England?'.
The majority of people in this country have no problem whatsoever with controlled immigration as mentioned earlier, nor do the vast majority have issues with true refugees and asylum seekers. What is puzzling to some is that the world is supposed to be a more peaceful place of late yet we have more male refugees and asylum seekers. Despite the desperate situation in Yemen, why is there no Exodus? I know a few made their way to Zanzibar, but not masses. Why did mainly men evacuate from Syria leaving their women to struggle in refugee camps in Lebanon and Jordan. Why were none of the other countries in Europe suitable? Why do some people who know they would not meet the criteria for legal entry use crises to exploit the refugee and asylum status, how wrong is that, but it happens. Why were only a few UK children evacuated abroad during the war and not millions of refugees. Why did we accept refugees from other countries during and just after the war when we could barely feed ourselves.
Why do some people want to try and imply others are predjudiced, does it give them a strong sense of superiority to try at every opportunity to call out others.

Joelsnan I do hope your last sentence isn't aimed as an insult to me. I have only recently discovered the news and politics part of the forum, so am not au fait with the regular posters' attitudes in many respects. Tonight I have read more about a couple of individual posters than I had any idea about.
I don't feel competent to give in depth answers to your many questions about refugees and asylum seekers, since I've had the great fortune never to be counted in those groups. As for the war years, it may be me misunderstanding but I thought we were never invaded, bombed yes, but invaded no. We did evacuate children and women to what we thought were safer parts of the country. I imagine that makes a difference when there are armed people outside your door.

that it

Some people are prejudiced though, and they should be called out. Such as Stephen Yaxley- Lennon and his semi criminal followers who are now using Brexit as a vehicle for their hate speeches.

A recommend means a post you agree with - a bit like the Pointless trophy only not coveted.

Good news about brexit- it is 30th March and it hasn't happened.

I think the leavers on here promised not to post on Brexit after March 29th.
Let’s see.

30th March and Brexit negotiations are still on going - soon to be without TM at the helm so hopefully we may see real progress in a few weeks. The EU are fed up of us (I don’t blame them with our half in - half out attitude) so perhaps they will be less accommodating and force our negotiating hand soon.

One can hope!

Oops broken the promise already!

I haven’t said that crystaltipps
Brexit has been thwarted but not suspended (yet!).
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You said urmstongran you were only going to post about Brexit on this thread and weren’t going to post about Brexit after March 29th, didn’t have any conditions. This just shows people can change their minds when knowledge changes and promises aren’t set in stone, plenty of evidence of that at the moment.

Just an aside Urmstongran, I had also wondered where “take a recommend” comes from. Thought it was like the Americanism “step up to the plate”. I was in the mob. Never heard it. Asked DH who was in the Navy for years a long time ago, he never heard it either. I will consult my Jacks Speak reference book! (Take a make-and -mend means take the afternoon off).

I doubt that anyone and I mean anyone, can say they are truly not prejudiced in any way.
Just, for a moment, think of all the things you read and hear about and make judgement calls on, be it some travellers who leave shed loads of waste, the removal of which is paid for out of your taxes. The despoiling of your green places by said persons so that you feel you cannot let your children play freely.
Multiple occupancy houses allowed to get in a dreadful state of repair with landlords make under stair cupboards into bedrooms for workers who are here 'under the radar' (shall we say)
If your peaceful green area, or wherever you live, saw house prices fall due to the government housing those mainly males unfortunate enough to have arrived here by unconventional means, would you be pleased? Invite them to meet the neighbours?
Would you feel sympathy if they congregated in the street or would you feel uncomfortable going about your business?
These are real scenarios which have been on the news and whole tv programmes have centred around the difficulties of finding solutions.
'Not in my backyard' has even been quoted by members of the public who have ascribed that view to the classes who live in elite enclaves and MPs who have certain security protections.
Don't tell me that no one has any prejudices.
I certainly do.

Anyway, I won £50 last night by answering a question on Brexit in a quiz...so that's my good news ????? and I'm spending every penny on myself...probably half on a van full of Primark clothes and the other half on M&S food. ??