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Is there any Tory you would TRUST to take over from Mrs May?

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jura2 Tue 19-Mar-19 15:59:53

Who? I can't think of anyone ...

Joelsnan Thu 21-Mar-19 19:15:14

maryeliza54
Your cockstrutting around the threads is so amusing smile

Ginny42 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:21:40

Money is already being donated to potential leadership contenders. Owner of JCB has given Boris two amounts of £10,000 and £15,000 this year and he has been given almost £140,000 in money or 'other support' since late last year. He's had £36,000 from the owner of a NY investment business.

Dominic Raab has been given more than £50,000 this month alone.

The MPs' interests show that the Conservatives have accepted money from Lubov Chernukhin, wife of the Putin's former deputy finance minster, who has given more than £600,000 to the Tories in recent years.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/21/jcb-backs-boris-johnson-leadership-conservatives-gift

mcem Thu 21-Mar-19 19:23:15

Always have thought that the pseudonym "nicenanny" was a real misnomer!!

Jalima1108 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:29:37

He had two votes in his pocket - one Brexit and one Remain.
dragonfly I did read that he spent a long weekend agonising over which stance to take - but the, so did many of us which makes me think that many of us gave it a great deal of thought! However, our views only counted come the referendum, his probably influenced many.

GillT57 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:33:52

nicenanny how bitter and twisted are you? Keep to the point of the discussion or keep your nasty and irrelevant comments to yourself.

Jalima1108 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:36:55

I just typed out an extremely interesting, erudite and perspicacious post about this, hit an errant key and got blue dots all over my post!
What happened?

Anyway, thanks for the link Anja and I did not realise that Louise Bagshawe is still an MP - isn't she the author of --rather silly--novels?

maryeliza54 Thu 21-Mar-19 20:06:22

cockstrutting oh purleeze. You mean my accurate summing up of BJ?

Framilode Thu 21-Mar-19 20:25:57

Varian's posts are always interesting, well thought out and intelligent. You may not agree with her Nice? but there is no need to be so rude and unpleasant.

Jalima1108 Thu 21-Mar-19 20:29:24

Gransnet is just a forum we have no say unless we are paid up Conservative members who becomes their Leader
Do party members have much say? It comes down to a choice of two, doesn't it?

janeainsworth Thu 21-Mar-19 20:41:28

Wasn't that Louise Mensch jalima?
I thought the choice of Tory party leader was up to MPs & members didn't have a say.

Anniebach Thu 21-Mar-19 21:04:04

The Tory MP’s vote and two candidates then face the membership vote.

The Labour Party all members and Unions vote regardless of how many candidates.

maryeliza54 Thu 21-Mar-19 21:17:53

I think the Tory system allows for some really interesting shenanigans in terms of getting down to the final two. MPs know who will appeal to the membership and this leads to some interesting manoeuvres in ensuring who ends up in the final two or more importantly doesn’t.

Anniebach Thu 21-Mar-19 21:45:29

Who can forget the leadership election when the two Milliband brothers were candidates, David was in the lead then the union vote went to Ed , if it had just been members and MP’S votes David would have been leader .

muffinthemoo Thu 21-Mar-19 21:46:58

Put money on Jeremy Hunt before the odds come in any more.

GillT57 Thu 21-Mar-19 21:47:07

If there is a leadership contest it will be interesting. Nobody will presumably wish to be the one to lead the UK into financial and economic disaster so we need to watch who is coming behind and who is being pushed by others to the front. Based on my current jaded assessments of their characters I think the 'big boys and girls" will push the fool Gove to the front and then when it all, predictably, goes wrong, Boris will mount his white charger and come to save us all, probably denouncing Brexit at the same time.

maryeliza54 Thu 21-Mar-19 21:50:24

Yes Gove’s name keeps cropping up. I would mention his wife but I don’t approve of politicians being criticised because of whom they are married to so I won’t smile

varian Thu 21-Mar-19 21:52:23

Admirable restraint Maryliza

maryeliza54 Thu 21-Mar-19 21:56:34

Thank you varian it was quite a hard call. You’ll note I haven’t mentioned his height either although I’ve no idea what it is but apparently he can play the ukulele

humptydumpty Thu 21-Mar-19 21:57:54

My choice is Dominic Grieve

maryeliza54 Thu 21-Mar-19 22:00:20

Sadly humpty he hadn’t got a prayer

newnanny Thu 21-Mar-19 22:09:47

Urmstongran is correct Dominic Grieve is facing deselection on March 29th, and Anna Sourby, Heidi Allan and Sarah Woolaston were too so they definitely jumped before they were kicked out. Rudd would be unlikely as she only has wafer thin majority in her seat and she is not popular. Hammond has been proven to be a liar. Ken Clarke has already announced he is standing down at next election.

I would like Boris. He was a very good Mayor of London. He did a brilliant job with staging the Olympics and crime in London was at a low when he was in charge. He is popular with Londoners after his stint as mayor, and the young as well. Grass roots Tory's like him too and they will be the ones voting on the last two candidates. The bonus if Boris was chosen would be that some may resign as not want to serve under him. I would like to see Penny Mordant and Priti Patel get top jobs in a new cabinet.

maryeliza54 Thu 21-Mar-19 22:15:59

Wow newnanny what a utopian future you would wish on us. You think it matters that PH is a liar but not that PP and BJ are? Why is that?

newnanny Thu 21-Mar-19 22:26:18

All politicians lie to some extent, but Hammond far more than most because deliberately used flawed methodology on the data to concoct horror stories over Brexit. My husband is finance analyst in civil service and Hammond was pulled up for it. Remember he said unemployment would sky rocket up the day after the referendum result. I see it is now down to a 27 year low. It has come down for 4 quarters in a row, He said house prices would go up/down depending on his audience. He said we would not be able to get any trade deals if we left EU. I see we have now concluded a deal with Canada who is our biggest trading partner, but also Switzerland, Norway etc.

quote from his colleague Hunt

'And we need to remember that the economy has actually not suffered in the way many people thought it would and we have a chance now to resolve this and move on, to close this chapter, move on to the next chapter.

newnanny Thu 21-Mar-19 22:27:39

The only people who thought it would suffer in that way seems to be Remainers, who believed the scare stories.

Eloethan Fri 22-Mar-19 00:52:12

Boris Johnson was a dreadful Mayor of London. He wasted millions and millions of pounds on planning for the estuary airport and the garden bridge, new buses, water cannons, cable car, etc, etc.

His behaviour is also shameful.