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JRM - man of principle

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maryeliza54 Wed 27-Mar-19 10:54:06

He’s really stuck to what he believes in hasn’t he? His supporters must be so proud of him ( not to mention Nanny of course). So he gets the chance to change his mind but the great unwashed don’t?

Jalima1108 Thu 28-Mar-19 17:42:08

You may find this map interesting quizqueen
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/EU_OCT_and_OMR_map_en.png

EU Overseas Countries and Territories and Outermost Regions

varian Thu 28-Mar-19 20:36:56

Ardent Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg has a habit of making grand statements on Twitter, only for them to backfire badly.

In the past, the Tory MP has been roasted by JK Rowling for his tweets about the Brexit deal with the EU where he is firmly in favour of leaving the EU with no-deal.

Now he is encouraging people to invest in the city of London after sharing an article by the pro-Brexit political blog Guido Fawkes which reports that EU investors are considering moving to the UK because of Brexit.

www.indy100.com/article/jacob-rees-mogg-brexit-tory-mp-eu-investors-london-dublin-twitter-response-8783421

varian Fri 05-Apr-19 14:45:28

The European Commission has slapped down Jacob-Rees Mogg after the leading Brexiteer suggested the United Kingdom should wilfully cause chaos at the EU institutions if Brexit was delayed.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPKbzCj6Pvs

vigdis Fri 05-Apr-19 15:49:37

... appalling behaviour. It is we who are asking for extensions. Doesn't this arrogant man understand that the EU has a right to consider its own obligations, schedules, rules and plans? He thinks they should simply bow to the demands of him and his ilk? Why?
I wondee if our fiture trading partners-to-be are watching. Would you want to make deals with a country that is behaving like third world despots in pin stripes?
The conceit and hubris of this man is umbelievable.

Lily65 Fri 05-Apr-19 17:02:51

I like the phrase " slapped down" . Maybe nanny will give him one of her special puddings.

Ginny42 Fri 05-Apr-19 17:16:11

I dislike JRM not because he's rich, but because of his attitude. He is the product of his upbringing as we all are, but when he's being pompous and putting people down in the HoC or reciting poetry so that a really important motion runs out of time, he is behaving like a despicable bully. His upbringing must therefore have inculcated in him a sense of entitlement to be arrogant. He and his cronies in the ERG are the ones holding the PM to ransome.

In his own way he is every bit as nasty as a thug. His behaviour is bullying and thuggish, delivered in a posh accent.

M0nica Fri 05-Apr-19 18:23:21

His father, William Rees-Mogg was a journalist and editor of The Times, at a time, pre-Murdoch, when it was a pillar of the Establishment.

Lily65 Fri 05-Apr-19 19:24:25

I dislike him because he is a smarmy, rich git who inhabits a fantasy world.

Anniebach Fri 05-Apr-19 21:21:08

Why have some got a thing about ‘nannies’, class war ?

Lily65 Fri 05-Apr-19 21:51:17

Because his nanny is now the kids' nanny......weird much?

Anniebach Fri 05-Apr-19 21:54:12

Weird ? Not at all , it’s quite usual for nannies to stay with the family through old age

Lily65 Fri 05-Apr-19 22:00:43

Oh yeah, hang on my nanny is right here beside me.

GabriellaG54 Fri 05-Apr-19 23:02:28

Individuals who mock the rich and those with 'posh' accents, nannies and an Eton, Harrow, Fettes, Charterhouse or similar education, show what mighty chips they have on their shoulders.
It's rarely, if ever, heard that the above individuals mock the 'less fortunate' classes.
Just remember, these were children brought up by parents who themselves, in many cases, were coddled by money and nannies.
Like teaches like.
I well know families whose children and they themselves, have attended these establishments and never heard any of them put down anyone of, what one might term, 'a lower social standing'.
That is because they are confident in who they are.
I can happily and confidently mix with anyone and have no inferiority complex at all.
There is no need to dislike or mock people who had no say in to whom and under what circumstances they were born, raised and educated.

Lily65 Fri 05-Apr-19 23:06:11

they are confident because they are loaded........simples really

maddyone Fri 05-Apr-19 23:09:31

Absolutely Gabriella.

GabriellaG54 Fri 05-Apr-19 23:43:40

Lily65
I disagree, the reason being that money isn't a cure-all.
There are many wealthy individuals who have problems which you or I might easily surmount but they, with all their money, cannot.
Confidence has part of it's roots in identity, in family, in the security of routine which is not confined to rich people.
Too much money can be as debilitating and destabilising as too little.
Believing in yourself counts for a lot.

M0nica Sat 06-Apr-19 07:59:20

Confidence is internal and has nothing to do with money, although it can help. There are plenty of people from privileged backgrounds who lack it. For obvious reasons we never hear about them.

There are plenty of people from other backgrounds who have it as well. I was fortunate to come from a family where it is built in, even though they were Irish immigrants and English labourers and dockers. Among London's poorest in late 19th century. But they had the confidence to make the most of all the opportunities available, especially educational.

Confidence is there for the taking by anyone.

crystaltipps Sat 06-Apr-19 08:15:05

He called people who went to state school “ potted plants”.

annodomini Sat 06-Apr-19 08:52:55

If I'm a potted plant, I was in good compost - an excellent education in 40s/50s Scottish state system. What a snob that creature is.

Grandma70s Sat 06-Apr-19 09:33:19

Snobbery is the domain of those who are striving to be in a higher social class, or have recently risen from a lower one. The true upper classes are not snobs.

I agree on the whole with both Gabriella and Monica.

M0nica Sun 07-Apr-19 09:07:31

What is wrong with being a potted plant? Better than being a pernicious weed.

Anniebach Sun 07-Apr-19 09:11:29

I am baffled that some keep on about him having a nanny when a child and his children having a nanny now .

M0nica Sun 07-Apr-19 09:59:22

Annie I agree, I mean lots of people leave their children with childminders, friends, family members, nurseries and nannies of various kinds.

At various times when DC were small I paid friends to look after them after school, as does DS and DDIL for their DC now.

Anniebach Sun 07-Apr-19 10:06:28

MOnica should I ridicule those who have a cleaner because I don’t ?

I so dislike class war.

maryeliza54 Sun 07-Apr-19 10:12:10

Most of us who think JRM is an entitled, priveleged, self absorbed egoist totally lacking in any principles whatsoever who is rapidly approaching both his ‘best by’ and ‘use by’ dates just think the Nanny thing is an example of what is wrong with him and his ilk but not what is fundamentally wrong with what he represents. He has had a sticky week trying to justify why he supports the right wing thug party AfD.