Dominic Grieve

I feel that if the Brexit crisis is resolved without a General Election needing to be called, then Jeremy Corbyn will stand down as Labour leader well before the next scheduled General Election.

The polices and governance of the Parliamentary Labour party
and the broader movement brought in under him will remain the same I feel

In other words, change of leader but nothing else.

I am not religious but I pray that somebody or some people with integrity will come to the fore. ( if that makes any sense)

jura2.........oh the irony of your post!
You complain that *craftyone’ has called Soubry ‘sodbury’
And then call her crappyone

I should think that sodbury is a typo, as she (craftyone) then calls Soubry sosbury, so is your calling her crappyone a typo too?

I think Grieve is finished as a Conservative now, he will have to join the other breakaways on the naughtystep of ‘never to be heard from or voted for again’ independents.

Grandad My father was an active Labour supporter and union activist, as such, I know many "grass roots" Labour and union members - many are concerned at the takeover of their party by extreme left wingers.

go Grieve

a most anti UK horrid individual... vile to the greatest extent

his constituency voted leave... what is he on a huge EU pension..I bet he is

No not a typo - an example of how nasty it is.

Now George Osborne is all over Twitter telling Conservative Party HQ to suspend the Beaconsfield Tory Association and therefore stop them from de-selecting Grieve.

He is bragging that he and Cameron used to prevent de-selections all the time using this method.

Honestly no wonder the ordinary man in the street doesn’t have a voice.
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Good on Osborne. Grieve's constituency voted just about 50%/50% in the Referendum, with a tiny majority for Leave- and he is fully aware that many have changed their mind. So how is he not representing his Constituents anyhow?

Erm.. because of the Tory party manifesto that promised to abide by the result of the referendum?

Yes, lets just get rid of an intelligent, principled, honest and courageous man because he does not follow party orders like a sheep, but does what he was elected to do - represent his constituents.
Yes, half of them voted 'the other way', but he was elected to do what he thought best served his constituents.
Well done him for having a backbone.

Or just having the clout to have his own opinion count more?

Exactly Urmstongran !
He stands for his Party ( manifesto etc) and at least half of his constituents voted to Leave.
But he knows better...?
The arrogance of some MP’s is staggering.

Ah, bless he was probably saving us from ourselves as we obviously didn’t know what we had voted for.

It was his mission to put us straight.
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EllaKeat - exactly - courage, a back bone, intelligence and humanity- let's get rid.

Has Dominic Grieve actually stated that Britain should now ignore the referendum and remain in Europe?

I believed he was campaigning for Britain leaving the EU with a comprehensive trade agreement, which is Tory party policy (I think).

However, I stand to be corrected in any of the above

I’m confused - there are 3 possibilities which may or may not coincide. What an MP thinks is best for the country, what the constituency voted for ( however marginally) and what the party manifesto promised. Which is the trump card?

Don't voters vote for the manifesto? I always thought that was how it worked; the parties publish their manifestos and the voters vote for the candidate of the party whose manifesto they like best. If that's so it eliminates your second suggestion, maryeliza54.

I rather think the interests of the country is the trump card, though it might be argued that what is set out in the manifesto is what the party thinks would be in the best interests of the country.

Interesting question.

The manifesto is a starting point though isn’t it, not a finishing point - a statement of intent not an end point written in stone? In any given policy scenario, not just Brexit, situation develop and change, outside influences may impact the situation and what constituents wanted may no longer be viable or possible. An MP has to have to have some sense then of what’s best for the country alongside what might be a change in his party’s policy position.

A shocking video of part of the meeting of his Conservative Association shows the stark contrast between the intelligent well informed MP and the boorish Tories shouting "liar" and "traitor".

It is so important that louts like these, whether they are in the Tory Party, UKIP, BNP, EDL or even the Labour Party are not allowed to threaten and bully the decent majority in this country.

news.sky.com/video/dominic-grieve-accused-of-brexit-betrayal-as-he-loses-confidence-vote-11679942

Perhaps future manifestos should make it perfectly clear that they are, it would seem now only advisory, and that your MP can in fact change their minds as they see fit. So don't ever be persuaded dear voter by warm sympathetic words from your would be MP, but instead be wary that, for example, when a pledge no less was given to deliver brexit, you should have aware that this was, in reality, 'maybe, maybe not,' and voted with that in mind!

Bit like labour MP's in the H of C screaming at Mrs May!!

Exactly * Jabber* whenever I watch PMQ I always find myself remarking to DH that the Tory beaches are THE absolute model of behaviour towards the benches opposite. What is fair comment is that they should ALL behave better but the bar is set very low. However, the behaviour at DG’s constituency meeting did shock me and was redolent of scenes we saw on Friday.

Whether its Ukip or Momentum, both sides of the coin have their yobs!!!

Talking about yobs- the behaviour of far too many, at the pro Brexit, or rather anti EU march last Friday- was just disgusting, scary and totally like the nazi marches of the realy 30s. Made me sick to my stomach and really upset and concerned for my daughters and grandchildren - compare it to the much much larger march of a week before where there was not ONE incident, despite the 1 million + (+++). Families, children.