Dominic Grieve

There may be Ukip yobs and Momentum yobs but it is quite striking that there are so many pro-brexit aggressive yobs and this is not a problem on the Remain side. In spite of there being a record number of marchers on 23rd March, there were no arrests, and there was not a highly visible police presence, presumably because the police knew from experience that the anti-brexit campaigners were peaceful, law abiding folk.

Contrast that with yesterdays' demo - far fewer participants, yet more police needed to be deployed because of the yobbish behaviour of brexiters attacking the police, journalists, camera crews and trying to break into Downing Street..

www.standard.co.uk/news/london/brexit-supporters-clash-with-police-at-march-with-five-arrested-on-day-brexit-supporters-clash-with-a4104911.html

Now before anyone accuses me of saying all leave voters are yobs, let me make it clear that I am not. I think most leave voters are also law abiding folk, but it is quite clear that people who want to swear, threaten and attack others voted leave.

Made me sick to my stomach and really upset and concerned for my daughters and grandchildren
Oh no, were they there and caught up in it all jura? Or were they caught up in the go slow on the motorways?

I hear there could be more protests, so best keep aware of what may be happening.

Now before anyone accuses me of saying all leave voters are yobs, let me make it clear that I am not. I think most leave voters are also law abiding folk, but it is quite clear that people who want to swear, threaten and attack others voted leave.

So, all you Grannetters who voted leave, please do NOT post on that sweary thread. However, perhaps don't worry, remainers will never look at that thread anyway (apart from me).

Apparently FIVE people were arrested on that march so please, please, be careful when out and about in case these five are released and cause trouble.

think most leave voters are also law abiding folk, but it is quite clear that people who want to swear, threaten and attack others voted leave.
For goodness' sake, varian, you make me embarrassed to have voted remain with ridiculous comments like that.

Jalima
Yes, reason has long fled from Varian’s posts, we get inflammatory nonsense now.

She is spot on - watch videos of the march 2 weeks ago and the one on Friday- it is there, for all to see.

Varian
You obviously missed the post by maryeliza54 on March 20th where she called Teresa May * a mad goady fucker*
Anything to say?

I do not swear or encourage others to swear but I can understand the sentiment.

Varian
So what your saying is: because it's a remainer swearing and the swearing is directed at Theresa May it's ok.
You have shown your true colours, or should I say your double standards.

It is not OK to swear. I never do, although I am often tempted. I really think the future of our country should not be determined by who swears the most, threatens the most, makes the most disturbences, attacks the most policemen or kills the most MPs. (RIP Jo Cox MP who we have not forgotten)

She is spot on - watch videos of the march 2 weeks ago and the one on Friday- it is there, for all to see.


Were they swearing?
and were jura's family there?
That is unacceptable in the presence of children.

varian
are you equating leave voters with murderers now?

In which case, I wish to be disassociated.

No of course not. I am sure, as I have said many times, that most leave voters are decent people.

Oh, thank goodness.

I am married to one.

MPs are expected to use their own judgement and expertise in coming to a decision about what is best for the country. That is their job in a parliamentary democracy. Sometimes MPs deserve criticism, but it is depressing to read vindictive disparagement of an MP who follows his/her conscience. Meal ticket down the drain?! Come on, we’re better than that!

Dominic Grieve protests that only 350 of his constituents supported a vote of no confidence in him, versus the 36,000 who voted for him at the last election.

How then is he able to accept 400 MPs thwarting the will of 17.4 million voting to leave the EU?

See Oldfossil's post above Urmstongran.

Missed my point.

Because Dominic Grieve is arrogant and thinks he knows better than the people he represents but come another election he will be voted out voters have long memories and won't forget.

He is my MP and has let us down IMO.

Perhaps he does no better than a lot of his constituents? after all, he is a barrister, QC and member of the privy counsel, and was previously attorney-general; I would never say I 'knew better' than him Firecracker123.

Honestly no wonder the ordinary man in the street doesn’t have a voice.
The ordinary man (and woman) in the street did have a voice - at the ballot box and they overwhelmingly voted for Dominic Grieve.
Now a few who have taken over the local Conservative Association want to usurp him in favour of an ex-UKIP candidate - therefore overthrowing the wishes of the ordinary men and women of the constituency.

He was sacked by David Cameron.

Dominic Grieve protests that only 350 of his constituents supported a vote of no confidence in him, versus the 36,000 who voted for him at the last election.
In the 2017 GE:
36,559 voted for Dominic Grieve
1,609 voted for the UKIP candidate

The referendum produced a marginal result.

He was sacked by David Cameron.
For standing up for human rights legislation?
That could be a badge of honour!

Grieve has always been an ardent Europhile.

This though from The Times 2014 is interesting:

The immediate cause of his downfall was not the EU, but rather the Strasbourg-based European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) and the 65-year-old convention that lies at its heart.

The convention is toxic to Conservatives, who blame it as the source of many of the UK’s ills in coping with immigration, terrorism and much else.

Muslim cleric Abu Qatada, who used it for eight years to block his extradition to Jordan, was eventually expelled. So far he has been acquitted on one set of terrorism charges, but remains in jail to face a second round.