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National Unity......will it work?

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lemongrove Tue 02-Apr-19 18:44:15

Surprise announcement from T May this evening.
She will have talks with Corbyn to break the deadlock !
This means that he will have to climb down from the comfy fence now.
If she and her team suggest adding a customs union to her deal, he would be hard pressed not to agree.That could be approved by Parliament.

Lily65 Tue 02-Apr-19 20:31:36

Hilarious. After this ridiculous hate filled charade, May wants to talk to Corbyn and she invites him via the TV.

We need consensus.......well who would have thought it?

Grandad1943 Tue 02-Apr-19 21:36:37

It's kicking off tonight in the Tory party. The ERG group are demanding that the chairman of the 1922 committee must go and see Theresa May and tell her "she has to go."

Boris (The Buffoon) Johnson has been on Sky News condemning Theresa May's new stance and stating it is ridiculous that "the final stages of the Brexit negotiations have been handed over to Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour party".

Anniebach Tue 02-Apr-19 21:41:28

If the outcome of the meeting is anger from Labour supporters he can use his get out line ‘i was there but I don’t know if I was involved’

Grandad1943 Tue 02-Apr-19 21:50:27

Anniebach, apparently if Corbyn had not seen Mays statement on the television, he undoubtedly would not have been involved as he would not have known about the meeting

Typically May did not even ring Jeremy Corbyn to inform him of what she was about to state in her "Nation Address."

She seems to be not very good at those addresses or in her communications with people

paddyann Tue 02-Apr-19 21:56:45

What a waste of time ,while all normal business in Paliament has been sidelined and its cost (according to news reports online) 400 MILLION A WEEK....Thats more than the number on Boris' bus!!She should have taken it back to the country she was never going to bring it together and get a result that pleased all of parliament..who quite frankly haven't a clue about what they or anyone else wants .

Anniebach Tue 02-Apr-19 22:14:55

She said she was going to invite him, he is free to refuse

Anja Tue 02-Apr-19 22:30:56

Yes, whoever said ‘about three years too late’ is spot on.

Wonder if ‘she who will neither compromise nor consult’ will listen or just demand he backs her ‘deal’? And when he inevitably refuses will she blame him?

Corbyn and Labour have put forward quite clear proposals. How is that sitting on the fence?

???

maddyone Tue 02-Apr-19 23:39:03

She should have done this a long time ago, but will she go into any meeting with Corbyn, or anyone else, with an open mind? And will he go in to meet her with an open mind? Will they genuinely try to find a solution? Is there a solution they can both agree on?

GabriellaG54 Tue 02-Apr-19 23:50:51

I can't think of anything worse than a blue collar government.

GrandmaKT Wed 03-Apr-19 00:04:52

I agree with others who say that this has come 3 years too late! May has already stated that any agreed deal must include the backstop and as that has always been the sticking point I can't see it working. I also think the EU are very unlikely to give us another short extension.

crystaltipps Wed 03-Apr-19 06:21:05

Will she bung the Labour Party £1bn ?
As for Boris saying politicians should work for the good of the country not themselves- oh the irony!
Agree it’s a ploy to blame JC for the mess when there’s no consensus.

MaizieD Wed 03-Apr-19 08:09:15

Agree it’s a ploy to blame JC for the mess when there’s no consensus.

Of course it is. There is nothing at all honest,open or straightforward about this woman.

Or polite. She didn't even bother to contact him before announcing to the nation that she was going to involve him. I wonder if his first instinct was to tell her to sod off and sort out her own mess?

Granny23 Wed 03-Apr-19 08:24:58

Something else that is going on behind the scenes as reported today in The National:

"THE Scottish Conservatives are suspected to be preparing for a snap General Election after campaign material was delivered to constituencies across Scotland.

Leaflets bearing the face of party leader Ruth Davidson have reportedly been delivered in the Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch & Strathspey; Central Ayrshire; Argyll & Bute; and Edinburgh South West constituencies over the past few days."

A sign? or just covering all bases?

The leaflet does not mention Brexit. It features a bar chart showing that at the last GE while the SNP polled most votes the Conservatives were 2nd ahead of Labour. The message being that only the Tories can beat the SNP and preserve the Union.

Anniebach Wed 03-Apr-19 08:27:21

He had to wait for McClusky and Lensman to tell him what he should do

Anniebach Wed 03-Apr-19 09:03:41

No one knew three years ago what was ahead following the referendum so unfair to judge Mrs May because of all that has happened since for becoming PM .

Lily65 Wed 03-Apr-19 09:11:33

I suppose any attempt at a cross party solution to this unholy mess would require a mature and open minded attitude.

Anniebach Wed 03-Apr-19 09:13:22

Unlikely with Mrs May and Corbyn

maryeliza54 Wed 03-Apr-19 09:40:24

The problem is that we, as they say, are where we are and not where we should be. That has to be placed fairly and squarely at the door of TM. She chose to be PM, she chose to call the 2017 election, she chose not to reach out at least 2 years ago across the divide, she chose to buy the DUP and to give the ERG far too much sway in devising her strategy ( and much good those last two sorry groups have done her). It’s impossible for either TM or JC to have an approach not affected by the last 3 years. I don’t suppose many of us hold out much hope for a solution this week but I’m absolutely clear about exactly who got us into this situation.

eazybee Wed 03-Apr-19 10:00:47

Theresa May, a remainer, is the person who bears the most responsibility for this mess; she stepped up to it willingly and devised this dreadful Agreement under the guidance of Oliver Robbins, Chief Civil Service adviser, negotiator for Brexit, and a committed European Federalist since university, also completely unaccountable. Apparently he is due to depart for another post, somewhere; it will be most interesting to see where.

Granny23 Wed 03-Apr-19 10:16:40

How can it be National Unity when neither Scotland or NI (whose voters chose to remain) nor Wales have a voice in the 'final solution'?

The Liberals who have been staunchly remain from the outset are also being excluded from these crisis talks.

MaizieD Wed 03-Apr-19 10:20:37

Aren't you forgetting, eazybee, that she put Leavers into key positions in her cabinet? David Davis as Minister for the DexEU, who achieved nothing....? And sicked off people like Ivan Rogers whose advice would have been invaluable?

She has floundered all the way through this sorry episode. If her strategy was to ultimately Remain she's gone a very strange way about it.

Anniebach Wed 03-Apr-19 10:35:21

She is also meeting Nicola Sturgeon

EllanVannin Wed 03-Apr-19 11:01:39

Unity to me includes the EU not just a bunch of tin-pot politicians sitting in Westminster who've argued for 3 years without a conclusion !!

varian Wed 03-Apr-19 11:07:19

James Slack has been the Downing Street Press Secretary, ie the Prime Minister's official spokesman since April 2017. He is a former political editor of the Daily Mail.

Slack wrote the controversial "Enemies of the People" front page article on 4 November 2016 which criticised senior judges in England's High Court of Justice who had made a decision the British Daily Mail newspaper did not agree with.

The headline, written by James Slack and approved by editor Paul Dacre, was in response to the ruling of the High Court of England and Wales in the Miller case that the government would need to gain the consent of Parliament before it could trigger Article 50 and exit the European Union (EU). The government had intended to use the royal prerogative to invoke Article 50, after a referendum in June 2016 had resulted in a slight majority vote to leave.

The Daily Mail claimed the court's decision purposefully blocked the Brexit process and ran the story and headline about the three high court judges – the Lord Chief Justice, Lord Thomas, Master of the Rolls Sir Terence Etherton, and Lord Justice Sales. The Mail's website also initially described Etherton as an "openly-gay ex-Olympic fencer", but this was changed after criticism on social media. Former Lord Chief Justice Igor Judge said the newspaper's attacking comments, particularly the homophobia concerns, were "very unpleasant".

The Independent Press Standards Organisation received over 1,000 complaints about the piece, claiming it violated numerous Codes of Conduct including inaccuracy, harassment and discrimination. A Business Insider report strongly criticised the Daily Mail story as being "distorted" and could be construed as an attempt to harm the reputation and safety of the judges. In November 2016, the Bishop of Leeds, Nick Baines said the public should be "very alarmed" over the Daily Mail piece.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemies_of_the_People_(headline)

I think in these circumstances, Theresa May's appointment of James Slack as her official spokesman shows an outrageous lack of judgement, symptomatic of her extreme pandering to the brexitextremists in the Tory pary.

Granny23 Wed 03-Apr-19 11:16:35

Annie According to BBC News

"Nicola Sturgeon is seeking urgent talks with the prime minister over Brexit, the BBC understands.
The first minister has travelled to London in a bid to put her case directly to Theresa May."

No mention of a meeting being granted nor an invitation to the talks given.