Appalling news about Brexit

Apparently they are still issuing some 'left over' old passports. I applied to have mine renewed assuming it would include EU and it's being delivered on Monday. Really sorry if I left it too late.

I'm rather pleased to see that my passport has another 5 years to go... 2024

What difference does it make? Having a british passport with EU on it after brexit wont still entitle you to any EU benefits. You wont be able to walk through the EU lines at airports (unless that is negotiated). It WONT still be an EU passport just because it still has the words on it!

That is correct. If we remain in the EU these blue passports might become rare collectables.

For some really appalling news about Brexit there is an article in the Guardian today entitled ".....how the world sees Brexit" This makes devastating reading

Notanan2 - it makes us Remainers feel a tiny little better

I'm getting my Irish one along with thousands of others! Can choose which queue to join! yay!

Good to note that some people don't care how much their flying (passport checking noted) adds to our carbon emissions but object to buying food and clothes made in other countries, countries that use what they deem to be sweatshop labour which would include the food and products sold in those countries.

You don’t GG54! You’re always boasting about your cheap clothes?

Look at the labels in your own clothes, underwear, everything. Pots and pans, rugs, plant pots, crockery, cars, curtains, towels, bed-linen...guaranteed to be made in the very same manufacturing premises that you decry.
Just like food, factories manufacture for many brands so don't kid yoyrself

yoyrself yourself

Did I decry them though?

You were the one trying to slur others with the things you do yourself

Underwear sold by Rigby and Peller at £70+ for a Prima Donna bra is made in Sri Lanka as is underwear from Sainsbury's, Primark and M&S among many other brands. The same applies to all high street clothing no matter what you pay.

Thank you for enlightening me. I had no idea ( not) . Not sure what your point is though.

Professor Brian Cox is one of the most intelligent people in the UK and he says it clearly ' ...Ministers have access to the full analysis on No Deal and you can see the fear in their eyes. They know it's be an economical and social catastrophy and the end of the Union. But it's an admission they've misled voters'.

And from Dr Clive Peedell : "Absolutely shocked that so many people that support a No Deal Brexit are nonchalantly saying that it will be tough for a bit then improve. As a doctor and cancer specialist, I'm incandescent these people don't seem to care that lives and livelihoods are at serious risk".

GG54 - not all factories in the Far East etc treat their employees badly. Many European business source goods from welfare friendly factories and it is easy enough to find out which.

GG54 - on the subject of travel - many of us travel by train. I no longer fly because of catching some bug or other when so doing.

The queues also apply to International trains- like the Eurostar btw. We used to often come by train and we had to queue at Waterloo, then St Pancras, and of course Gare du Nord. We also had to queue with luggage and passport checks in Madrid. We drive these days because of the dog.

Let's hope none of us will require care in an OAP Home

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sorry, here is the link.

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Dinahmo
I think you misunderstood my post.
I certainly do not think that all foreign manufacturing, especially clothes, takes place in sweatshop conditions.
I have been castigated by some GNers for writing that Primark and H&M are two shops in which I spend a fair amount of money.
They refer to 'cheap imported clothes' and 'sweatshop' conditions.
I countered that by telling them that many High Street brands use the same manufacturers, just as the food sector does.
Like you, I'm put off by flying nowadays. The drink culture and dreadful behaviour on many flights did it for me plus being cooped up with a few hundred people, kids kicking your seat, feet poking through between seats and drunken fights and noise...no thanks.
I'll explore more of my own country.

(To return to the thread ...) My policeman son-in-law has already had leave cancelled because of fears of public disturbance following our exit from the EU.

But why does everyone on here (or nearly all) expect that all unrest will come from Brexiteers? I would imagine it would be the opposite ...?

What rioting, sandal wearers throwing Waitrose quiches?

Yes nothing like good stereotype, probably throwing their almond milk lattes at the police line, but no- they'd have to recover their reusable cups. Still they'd be laden down with all their buggies and baby slings so not much hope of a good riot. Lets leave that to the EDL and UKIP.