Climate Change Protests - will they make a difference?

Quoting mycat. "They are ridiculous so unfortunately they make the issue look ridiculous and frivolous"

Surely you can decide for yourself whether their case is ridiculous or not withou being swayed by the fact that some people are dancing, and you don't like it.

You live in your own nice safe middle class echo chambers.

Listen to the callers on LBC there were 3 on Friday alone almost in tears at not getting to work so not being paid.

Of course you don’t care about those people do you? Or the estates where knife crime is rife and theft and vandalism a fact of everyday life. Of course crime has increased in these areas. The chief constable has already said they are top stretched with this nonsense protest.

But hey who cares!

Gonegirl

That’s twice you have called me hysterical it really is making you sound very silly dear.

The only hysterical ones on this thread are the ones who simply won’t tolerate or accept different opinions on these selfish counterproductive tactics.

Why shouldn't a bit of central London be given over to the people for a while anyway? Been about motorists too long.

The information you are coming out with is making you sound a little bit of a drama queen. Darling.

does the life of our grandchildren’s planet matter nothing to you

Er hysterical now yourself love.

Who on earth has said they don’t think climate change is a huge issue???

It’s the tactics that lots of us are questioning. Dear of dear. Can’t you actually understand that?

Now I have a lasagna to make petal so I have to pop off.

You lie down and have a cold glass of wine. Do you good.

There is nothing hysterical in that. It is the life of our grandchildren's and their children's planet that is threatened.

I am not hysterical. Just a bit angry. Sweetie pie.

Don't drink wine.

Who saying they don’t support the cause of being aware of the need globally for action for climate change.....nobody on this thread!
Most people are very aware, as are Western Governments.
What they are saying, is that a group should not be allowed to disrupt life for thousands for a whole week...or more.It has turned into a jolly for the group, united in self righteous demands.
They ‘will stay until their demands are met!’So they say.Don’t any of them have jobs? They should be moved on.

People on the thread are suggesting that many will be put off by the tactics being used. I am saying that would be narrow minded and pathetic.

Many will be put off by the tactics Gonegirl no matter what anyone thinks.
Also by a lot of the pompous drivel spouted by those camping out in London, especially celebs getting themselves some extra publicity.

The ones being 'put off' are most likely the ones who don't care anyway. And are determined no to think it out for themselves.

Is there any evidence that this protest has achieved anything towards it stated goal? There is evidence that the pollution levels have risen in those areas where the protestors have deliberately caused traffic congestion. I notice nobody is prepared to answer my question as to how long is fair for Londoners to endure this.

Mycatsa hacker 19.36...[thumbs up]

I don't think they should have to endure it at all janipat! Rally in Hyde Park plus a march on a Sunday maybe, but other than that it's just not fair on people going about their daily business who are caught up in something that they can't influence. Politicians of course aren't affected as they are on a recess!! Their ridiculous demands are completely impossible particularly in a country that is well aware of climate change and making concertive efforts to do what it can bearing in mind all the considerations that we ALL including the demonstrators, now take for granted and that cannot be altered overnight!

It is untrue that “thousands have lost their jobs”, or “thousands unable to get to work” , I was late for an appointment a couple of weeks ago when cab drivers were holding a protest and holding up traffic - they do this regularly - no idea what that was about - I don’t hear hysterical criticisms of selfish cab drivers and their second homes in Spain inconveniencing thousands.

I’m an ordinary Londoner and I support them as do thousands of others.

Well I don't!

I didn’t say everyone. I can tell on here that many are intolerant of any kind of protest or march especially if it involves students or anything vaguely left wing. It’s interesting to read contemporary letters to the Times about the suffragettes/ they were loudly criticised as not representing ordinary women who were too busy to vote, too ugly to get a husbands etc. They used similar sit down tactics.

crystaltipps
I don't think you can equate this climate demonstration to the efforts of the Sufferagets. What the Sufferagets were campaigning for was a single cause at a national level that could be resolved also at a national level, Global Warming is a Global issue that cannot be cured by individual nations. We do not see Sufferagets demonstrating and causing issues in London because another nation does not give women a vote. If there was any militancy to be done on behalf of votes for women it would happen in the country denying the vote.
It should be the same in UK and the many other Western Countries that are well aware of Global warming and taking necessary steps to alleviate it.
Those demonstrating should be educated. Instead of blaming their forebears in UK for 'supposedly' ruining their future. Potentially (and through already implemented initiatives) these people will have better lives than their parents and grandparents.
If these demonstrators were serious then they should be taking their demonstrations to failing countries and bring their capitals to a standstill. Rather than bringing London to a standstill they should all row over to South America where they are clearing the rainforest, Emma could meet them there (fewer airmiles). Others could take a clipper boat catching the trade winds to China and bring Beijing to a halt.
Preaching to the converted does not make for an effective campaign.

I don't think you can expect ordinary people to go to other countries and demonstrate to change foreign governments. But they do have the right to endeavour to influence their own elected government. Don't you agree?

Gonegirl
But as mentioned...they are preaching to the converted.

Suffragets not Sufferagets..doh! Sorry.

Our government IS doing its level best and is deeply aware of climate change,as are ALL UK politicians ,but nothing can be done overnight or with the stroke of a pen! Demonstrate outside offending Embassies,a lot of whom don't give a toss, do something positive in countries that seem to have cloth ears, badger politicians to make representation to these countries, but DONT disrupt the daily lives of ordinary citizens who frankly can do very little and are powerless to promise you anything to alleviate a problem you're causing that 8they've done nothing to deserve!

A parliamentary committee described our government's plans for banning the sale of petrol cars as "vague and unambiguous". There is no reason we should have to wait until 2040 or later. Make them concentrate their minds and stop waffling.