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Whitewavemark2 Tue 07-May-19 08:33:25

Names are coming along at a regular basis, and with May having a meeting with Brady today, it is likely that she will be persuaded to give a date of her departure.

So let’s start looking at who would make the most suitable Tory leader.

The first out of the hat is Boris Johnson.
His first hurdle is facing court to defend the charge of lying before the referendum.
www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/date-set-for-court-against-boris-johnson-1-6034496

Anniebach Fri 24-May-19 10:06:44

They need to go for someone without history,

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-19 10:08:18

Blimey annie that’s an impossible bar!

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-19 10:10:24

Mays speech utterly delusional.

varian Fri 24-May-19 10:12:24

She's going on 7th June.

Smileless2012 Fri 24-May-19 10:14:32

A courageous, dignified and moving speech. Well done TM.

MawBroonsback Fri 24-May-19 10:15:51

“I deeply regret that I have not been able to deliver Brexit”

Is that not because basically, despite the Referendum hyperbole,it is undeliverable?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-19 10:17:23

Of course maw

Anniebach Fri 24-May-19 10:20:34

Whitewave without history such as Johnson and Corbyn

Mycatisahacker Fri 24-May-19 10:21:32

Na it’s not undeliverable you just need to get a free trade agreement, which was offered, if we stick to saying we are definstiy going in Oct a deal will b done.

They never took May seriously.

loopyloo Fri 24-May-19 10:21:46

So it's impossible to leave? We are trapped forever like the Hotel California?

Mycatisahacker Fri 24-May-19 10:23:29

Who did to be fair. She didn’t take Brexit seriously.

A no deal Brexit is far better than a Corbyn deal or government.

Anniebach Fri 24-May-19 10:24:57

Mrs May, Such dignity, sadly lacking in many

Framilode Fri 24-May-19 10:27:41

Mycatishacker 'A no deal Brexit is far better than a Corbyn deal or government'

Shall we discuss this a couple of years from now? I wonder how many views will have changed.

Mycatisahacker Fri 24-May-19 10:27:58

Of course we can leave we just need better negotiators with better skills.

A remain parliament blocking a no deal really shows us that MPs should not be allowed to stand unless they have actually been in some sort of business or had experience of life.

To take no deal off the table was/is quite frankly ridiculous!

No one wants a no deal us or the EU but when you negotiate the other side needs to think you keep all options open including walking away.

Day6 Fri 24-May-19 10:29:07

Well, whoever takes over from May gets not only a broken chalice but one still dripping with the poison she had to swallow too.

It will be a long time before the Conservative party recovers from the Brexit negotiations shambles. May deceived I think. Leave meant 'remain' all along to her.
I respected her as a politician and a woman and I have no idea how she has kept going, given the flak she's had to take. I do think she allowed her own arrogance and EU stance to influence the talks with Barbier, etc, so anger is in the mix from me too. But lots of smpathy too. Career over.

We have many MPs/parliamentarians to thank for her demise though.

I bet the leaders of every other party were secretly very glad not to have to take on Brussels and negotiate our way out of the EU. I feel if Corbyn had the task we would be in a customs union favouring the EU and still donating billions to Brussels.

A Leave politician now has to take the Conservative reins and finish the job, although I expect he or she will be thwarted at every turn. Point scoring and self-interest will continue as will Corbyn's game of stopping any forward movement. It's disgraceful.

The next GE will see more MPs ousted (fingers crossed) so TM may enjoy a bit of schadenfruede then.

Mycatisahacker Fri 24-May-19 10:30:22

Framilode

Well we can but neither will happen.

A better negotiator will cut a deal and Jeremy will never be PM.

As long as Britain retains its Sense of self preservation.

I would love to see a good labour government with a good leader but Jeremy is not that person.

Day6 Fri 24-May-19 10:32:08

Well said mycat

Taking No Deal off the table was suicidal negotiating. No business person would ever throw in their cards like that.

The EU has us by the short and curlies now, to coin a phrase.

Mycatisahacker Fri 24-May-19 10:32:17

Day6

Yes sadly I think you are right.

And all this Corbyn wanting a GE is laughable.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-19 10:32:45

Don’t worry day6 we are leaving, but with no deal.

Mycatisahacker Fri 24-May-19 10:33:02

Well exactly Day6

Totally and utterly stupid

Mycatisahacker Fri 24-May-19 10:34:46

whitewavemark

Do you think the EU want a no deal or out billions?

Honestly the innocence sorry.

Mycatisahacker Fri 24-May-19 10:35:12

Sorry or our billions.

MawBroonsback Fri 24-May-19 10:39:23

A remain parliament blocking a no deal really shows us that MPs should not be allowed to stand unless they have actually been in some sort of business or had experience of life
That is an incredibly arrogant statement and absolutely unable to backed up with any evidence whatsoever.

And your qualifications in that department are precisely what...??? mycatisahacker confused

Framilode Fri 24-May-19 10:39:30

mycatisahacker i am with you on Corbyn.

Day6 Fri 24-May-19 10:40:21

If anyone thinks the EU will not be sniffing out our markets should we leave with No Deal, then they are seriously deluded.

Member states want our markets and our goods as well as our money. They won't be able to keep us in splendid isolation for very long, should that be their game plan.

We could have reached this state three years ago with a true Leave negotiator - as well as a way forward regarding trade already in place.

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