The Brexit Party

You are right lemon I don't think Farage will fight an election either. He is not interested in the day to day running of a government, he will stir things up, as he has done very well so far, and then clear off to the shadows to make money. I did wish some on here (not you lemon,) would stop seeing him as some sort of saviour

Well Gill57 if you are right he will be exposed to all as a liar because he has said he will fight a GE and made a big fuss about his ability to do so. Personally he is only one of many I would like exposed!

lemon did vote for him, though, Gill57

They don't care.

S Labaik Wed 29-May-19 14:32:15
Am I missing something here. Do you live in Malaga Urmstongran? If so aren't you worried how Brexit will affect healthcare etc over there?

No we live in Urmston, S. M/c Labaik but we have had a small apartment in Malaga for 15y. When we come out here we bring our EHIC cards but we also pay for annual insurance that covers our to-in and fro-ing.

Whatever happens after Brexit, we are pretty relaxed about it all.

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/brexit-party-in-talks-to-join-far-right-group-in-eu-parliament/ar-AAC5OvN?ocid=spartandhp

I understand how many people became disenchanted with the way the present Government were handling Brexit. I don't understand the attraction to NF- never did when he founded UKP and don't in his latest position as founder of the Brexit Party.

After reading this article I can clearly see the direction he's taking now and I for one am alarmed. I would ask whether his GN supporters are happy with the links to the far-right wing in Europe? Is this what you thought you were signing up to? What will it mean for us if he joins his party to the Salvini- M le Pen 'League of Leagues?

Over the years he has avoided attendance at meetings of the EU parliament and is leading a party specifically to leave the EU, yet it seems that he's trying to tie us in with these groups. It is becoming clearer what the newly elected Brexit party MEPs are planning to do in the EU if indeed they are MEPs for long enough.

In The Guardian just now:

“Leading figures from Labour and the Conservatives are poised to descend upon Peterborough amid concerns that the Brexit party is on the verge of victory in next Thursday’s crucial byelection.

Nigel Farage’s fledgling organisation, which triumphed at last week’s European elections, is the bookmakers’ favourite to win the Cambridgeshire seat following the recall of the former Labour whip Fiona Onasanya.

Both Jeremy Corbyn and the former prime minister Gordon Brown are expected in the leave-voting city for Labour over the next few days for a race which has become dominated by the government’s failure to leave Europe.

The Tories are expecting “several cabinet ministers” to arrive this weekend in the hope that they might fight off a collapse in their vote. They were expected to win it back in the immediate aftermath of Onasanya’s conviction for lying about a speeding ticket.

A win for the Brexit party would give it a first foothold in Westminster and help build a serious political machine for a general election. He will lead a rally in Peterborough on Saturday and has urged dozens of activists to descend upon the city.”

Here we go!
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Honestly, why? why do you support this person?

Are you planning on popping into Peterborough urmonston?.

Just an extract from Ginny's link...Nigel Farage’s Brexit party has been in talks to join the far-right group in the European parliament and is keeping its options open about its future allies, a spokesman for the party has said.
The talks between the Brexit party and Italy’s far-right League were first revealed by Marco Zanni, a League MEP, who said talks were going well and could be wrapped up next week.
He told La Repubblica newspaper: “Yes, the talks [with Farage] went very well, we hope to wrap things up next week. We’re at a good point. Obviously he has to say that he has more [than one] option, but it’s a good agreement and would be beneficial for us all to be together.”
But the Brexit party played down Zanni’s remarks, saying Farage wanted to maintain a separate Eurosceptic grouping, the Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy (EFDD).
A spokesman for Farage confirmed a meeting had taken place. “Yes, Nigel met former EFDD group member Marco Zanni MEP yesterday in public in Place du Luxembourg [next to the European parliament in Brussels] and had a coffee. Farage is working to maintain EFDD. He has lots of meetings today and next week.”....why does this not chill people to the bone?

Indeed Labaik. Even I, a most fervent remainer, could see it best for us to leave and have nothing to do with a far-right take-over of the EU.

Some Farage supporter want a far right take over of the EU as they believe in the nationalist, anti migrant, anti liberal, sod the environment, message that is they are pushing. They actively want to destabilise the EU, even if the U.K. aren’t in it.

I don't think the average Brexit party voter has the slightest idea that this is his agenda. Only the very politically aware will know this is what he's aiming to do.

I am extremely worried about the appeal NF has: that the people who voted for Brexit MEP’s are shoring up the new right wing supporters in the EU: the eFDD. Presently Brexit is only a Ltd Company not a Democratic Party. Farage cannot be dislodged. You might say because there hasn’t been time? He is primarily against the new tax laws as brought in by the EU a couple of months ago preventing the wealthy stashing their wealth in tax havens and not paying tax ( how dare they!). To get people onside he whips up immigrant fear and paranoia and appeals to people’s inflated sense of Nationhood and pride and superiority. And people fall for it.

Ginny how can we make people politically aware? I have seen so many comments on FB, twitter and even GN showing a lack of understanding, debate and often language skills. I'm sorry to say that in many cases it is clear they believe sound bites and have not looked further.

Just wondering if the Brexit person get to be an MP will he be the party leader? How will NF feel about a first timer getting in when he failed 7 times?

A customs union is not being in the EU Well Said Barry Gardener.

twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/1134341571481079808?s=20

Well said grannygranby; sums it up nicely.

Listening to the US Ambassador this morning and his acceptance that the US is intending to go for our NHS.

It occurred to me

Who is backing Farage?
Aaron Banks.

What is Banks bisuness
Insurance.

Who will profit from the privatisation of the NHS

Banks

Who has said he is in favour of privatising the NHS

Farage..

Who are their cronies! Bannon, Murdoch, Johnson.

Make no mistake the privatisation of the NHS is coming.

I started another thread which hasn't shown any interest so will copy it into here because I found it very informative.

Yes, I know, another Brexit thread and this is even an old article but it popped up in my Fb this morning and gave me more information than I previously knew.

Some of you won't want to read it all so I'll give the headline and one paragraph.

After Brexit: the UK will need to renegotiate at least 759 treaties.

in practice Britain’s exit will open more than 750 separate time-pressured mini-negotiations worldwide, according to Financial Times research. And there are no obvious shortcuts: even a basic transition after 2019 requires not just EU-UK approval, but the deal-by-deal authorisation of every third country involved.

Here is the whole thing: www.ft.com/content/f1435a8e-372b-11e7-bce4-9023f8c0fd2e?fbclid=IwAR1xTGMJfgkglkSINePcGCpHKHe5gkMSPgqXtD4D9nHTWQeGy3Ij8HDTqG8

It is horrifying.

Thank you for this link Nonnie

I wonder how many of these people who shout "leave means leave. WTO here we go" have any clue at all what that would actually entail.

"We are talking about an enormous number of complex acts that we rely on today,” says Lord Hannay, Britain’s former EU ambassador. “The challenge of replacing them falls in the same category as Alice in Wonderland running furiously to stand in the same spot.”

Thank you for the link Nonnie. It's such a massive concept I couldn't take it all in. I will need to read it a few times, as on first reading I felt like weeping. Are we crazy?

I think this is why many MPs are in shock at the gravity of what they are required to vote on. Some people say they're stupid, they're not doing as their constituents voted - I think they are far from stupid and they know just how much is involved in untangling us from the EU treaties.

I'm sure we all know people who say, 'Leave means leave', 'just don't pay anything', 'walk away' etc. I have lovely neighbours, I get on really well with them, but they never read a paper or listen to a news programme. They voted for Brexit and for the Brexit Party. I asked them why and they said we want to stand on our own again.

Show them something like this document and I know one would say, 'I live in a bubble and I like living in my bubble.' That couple have three sons who have all done very well, especially the youngest just completing his degree and won a scholarship to Harvard. I once asked her what the boys think about Brexit and her reply was, 'Oh I didn't ask them.' She has three ASs and 3 GC and it didn't occur to her to check how Brexit will/may affect them.

N.B. Average age of my neighbours between 50-55.

The Brexit Party tops election poll for the first time, must be true its in the Remainers Bible The Guardian ?

The director of communications for Leave.EU has been accused of racism after saying a black Remain activist “looks like” Diane Abbott with a "more glowing complexion".

Several Twitter users reported Andy Wigmore, another self-professed “Bad Boy of Brexit”, for racial abuse over his “vile” comments about Femi Oluwole.

www.indy100.com/article/andy-wigmore-femi-oluwole-diane-abbott-brexit-racism-twitter-8937801

Some interesting speculations here on whether The Brexit Party will be joining the Far Right Group in the EU. I take it as a given that the Labour Party will be realigning with the Far Right Group in the EU given that they include large numbers of anti-Semetic members?