Horrified by Alabama Abortion law

This is beginning to feel like a concerted effort to put woman back where some men think they belong! The rights we have now have been fought for and we cannot allow them to be taken from us.

I wonder if those well off men and women who have voted for this law have ever actually spoken to those women living in poorer areas and asked them for their views. Perhaps they could have held a public vote to see how much support there was for it - my guess is not a lot.

Also, agnurse, I don't agree w/ the comparison between a newborn and unborn child. In fact, the difference here is basically "born' vs. "unborn." The new baby is a born life, the unborn foetus or embryo is not. You may believe the unborn has the same rights as the born child. But please understand that not everyone does.

Maybe I'm jumping way too far ahead, but if Roe is overturned, what's next? Marriage equality?

If these laws go through, it's going to be like Prohibition was in the states. As a PP said, it's a matter of taking away rights that women already had. This is not going to go over easily.

Exactly star - this subjugation of women could very well extend much further. It's easy to imagine that rape within marriage could be redefined, for example.

Oh it’s an easy progression. Very frightening ladies we need to be very vigilant!

What is the USA thinking!!!!

Mycatisahacker you don't see a difference. I do.
My views are similar to others who have posted but they haven't had the abusive comments which have been directed at me.
As I have said none of you actually know me.

annepl not sure if you saw my earlier post but I asked if you agreed with the changes to the abortion laws in Alabama and elsewhere in the USA?

annepl

None of us knows any of us! so what?

I only go on your posts. You are a forced birther? I don’t like that. I can’t accept that.

If you are anti abortion that’s totally fine. Obviously your body your choice.

But my body my choice. I thankfully had access to a a safe abortion and I will always stand up for other girls and women to have the same rights.

No I don't support the Alabama ruling. I never said I did.

it is my business if a little baby is aborted for no good reason

annepl your words.

And my response not your business why how where or when. You guard your womb and let other women control theirs

No you didn’t - but it seemed to chime with your views on abortion so I assumed that you did. I stand corrected though - it’s heartening to note you recognise that it’s vital for women and girls to have free, easy access to safe abortions with no restrictions.

Well she/he didn’t yesterday!

Hopefully we have persuaded her/him

' free, easy? access to safe abortions with no restrictions '
I can't believe than anyone deems that permissible or moral, especially those last three words.

What restrictions would you want Gabriella?

Well there you go GG you’d better believe it

The clock has just been wound back by a 100 ++ years. More about cowardly, bullying men keeping the little woman in her place. I live in hope for equal education, opportunities, medical care, family planning etc for women worldwide. Sadly it won't happen in my lifetime.

You'd better believe it Gabrielle

How would you like women and girls to access abortions (because they have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so)? And I mean in reality as opposed to an ideal world?

What restrictions would you impose G

Free easy safe access to abortion for any reason with no restrictions.

Hell yes

" with no restrictions"

That must mean only up until the fetus is a viable human being. Late abortions are wrong wrong wrong.

Not in my opinion. If the fetus at a very late stage is incompatible with life or risks the life of the mother then a late abortion should be available freely and without restrictions.

Not sure what "incompatible with life"means.Do you mean unlikely to survive? Of so, I would say give it a chance once it has come to later term.

If it puts the mother's health at risk, I think the doctors would have realised this much earlier on and taken the necessary action then.

I'm no expert though.But I can't go along with killing live babies. (the kind that cry when they have been taken out)

Do you define late as after 24 weeks Gonegirl?

Do you think a foetus that will die at birth should be carried to term?

Do you think a cancer patient should delay treatment until after a full term birth?

These are two real life happenings that I know of. I just wonder if you think it is always wrong, wrong, wrong.

No, not unlikely to survive, it won't survive. And no, risk to the mother is not always picked up earlier. Late abortions are very rare though, have tight controls and are not undertaken lightly - the vast majority of abortions are taken much earlier in the pregnancy.

"Do you define late as after 24 weeks Gonegirl?"
Yes. Certainly. And before that. If there is no medical cause for the abortion, then it should be done within the first few weeks.

"Do you think a foetus that will die at birth should be carried to term?"
If the baby is growing, then I wouldn't want to see it aborted. I would hold out hope that the doctors could save it after its birth.

The thing about the cancer patient, I think that should be left for the mother to decide. No one else.

There was a very famous case on mumsnet from a NI woman a mumsnetter.

Her baby had severe abnormalities and would not survive after birth. She found this out at 26 weeks.

She was denied an abortion and forced to give birth full term and of course her baby died.

I think any state forcing this woman to do this to go weeks with a pregnancy that the baby would not survive was barbaric.