Banning milkshakes to save Farage

WW titter ye not

We should not support violent or threatening actions OR words whether online rape/ death threats, spouting about picking up a rifle, being jostled and abused by thugs or having a milkshake thrown at you. It shouldn’t be - oh well, words are ok, a milkshake isn’t, just because you support the one whose at the receiving end. Some on here are selective in what aggressive acts they support/ condemn.

I don't agree with the threats to harm or the throwing of eggs or milkshake. Politicians of all stripes lie.

The only way to get rid of Nigel Farage is not to vote for him and expose him for what he is. Throwing Milkshakes over him does show what one of many think of him but it is actual assault and may give him some sympathy votes. Physical assault is rarely productive and never acceptable.

The milkshake thrower in Newcastle has been charged with common assault and criminal damage. The latter because of a microphone Farage was wearing!!!! Now assaulting someone might be wrong but separating Farage from a microphone is a public service!

tricher

good glad he’s been charged its totally unacceptable and firm punishments need to be given to stop copy cat nonsense

As we look at this we might like to think about Cable Street and the women who threw pepper and were arrested.
www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2016/10/pepper-throw-fascists-forgotten-women-cable-street
Perhaps a few milkshakes earlier on would have stopped this happening.

...and we might not want to look at it trisher violent acts
Are wrong, and doing what they did possibly set back their cause for a while.Pepper in the eyes is agonising btw not a bit of harmless fun.

So what do you think these women should have done lemon trying to avoid the fascists had already been tried and didn't work. Should the people of the East End just hve put up with it? Well we know what happened when no-one acted in Germany!
The idea that fascism would go away if only Jews kept a lower profile was, however, hopelessly out of touch with events unfolding in the East End. Wiping off their lipstick did not protect women from street attacks by fascists – nor were women exempt from police brutality at the Battle of Cable Street. In fact, Jewish women were energetically involved in anti-fascist activism leading up to the Battle, from heckling and selling campaign literature at Blackshirt speaker meetings, to whitewashing walls with anti-fascist slogans and street fighting. At Cable Street, women were not only behind the barricades but also above them. When police tried to clear the road, women standing at the windows of the tenements threw missiles on them, and when they fled into nearby sheds, women came down from the buildings and chased them out.

I try to live in the here and now, shall we go back in history and find examples of women protecting themselves,say in
Viking raids?
Engaging in violent acts to protect yourselves if others are trying to hurt you is one thing, and throwing missiles at politicians or well known people in the street because you disagree with them, is quite another.

But throwing insults/ threats are ok?

tricher

The world has moved on. We have robust protection from the police now.

There is never ever a need for a violent act on a politician or anyone else unless you are acting in self defence.

Oh x post lemon

Ww2- totally agree with Brendon Cox too

“ I dislike Farage politics profoundly. His willingness to pander to hatred and division even more so. But I don’t think throwing stuff at politicians is a good idea. It normalises violence and intimidation and we should consistently stand against it”

Despise Farage and all he stands for, but fight him with good arguments, informed debate, facts - not throwing food or drink around

But the hypocrisy of Farage and Leave.uk- who delighted in tweeting and laughing at joking about Junker having a drink thrown at him, just a couple of hours before the milkshake incident, is pathetic.

Pot, kettle

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/leave-eu-beer-video-after-milkshake-incident-1-6061986?fbclid=IwAR1gGyjEdt2qOgzSle4PNknDAir7CHkFruseKllcCUMebrmJOjdMrQRlmBw

I agree it was rather childish but I agree 100% with the sentiment behind the act. And Trisher's reference to Cable St.
He was stupid to walk through central Newcastle, which is still antifascist TG. I wish I'd been there, not far from us.
Just being provocative imo. He's lucky it wasn't something worse.

Fennel

I think that’s a very frightening thing to say really.

Hes lucky it wasn’t something worse

Really

Fennel are you saying there should be no-go areas for certain politicians in UK?

As for the idiot who threw the milkshake, in an interview he said he was just there and decided to throw it on the spur of the moment, yet a report on local BBC radio has said that he was boasting that he was going to do it before the event!

Just a sad idiot remainer hope he gets a criminal conviction and loses his job.

Isn’t the very essence of a faciest a person who attacks or kills another person for their political or moral beliefs?

Strange thinking Fennel

please do not use the word " shameful" to me. There is an awful lot going on that is shameful at the moment. How a racist like F is adored by some for starters

That is a low blow Lily

Time and time again Farage has criticised the 'toxic and racist' element of UKIP. And removed himself from that group, condemning what it has become. But ignore that, eh?

Many former UKIP supporters who wanted a UK independent of the EU, which was what that group started out as, have also left UKIP.

The Brexit Party isn't UKIP. It's a one issue, leave the EU party, and you know that.

Brexiteers want to leave the EU trading bloc - an institution that is about much more than trading these days. It has morphed into something much bigger - and we give Brussels £39,000,000,000 of taxpayers money a year.

But you know that too.

Many, many people in the UK want to leave the EU. I am one and I do not have a racist molecule in my body. Nor do the other Brexiteers I know and associate with.

Remainers are showing the true colours of their smear campaign. Defamation of character is now the name of the game and you ought to be ashamed to tar good people (with different views from you) as you have.

Farage and co have merely provided a party for those who can no longer vote for Conservatives or Labour because of their pro EU MPs. People have been betrayed and feel strongly about it but you skim over that.

The leader is inconsequential to be honest. No one 'adores' Farage. The ideals of the ONE ISSUE party are much needed to at least 17.5 million people who have been shafted by their elected MPs.

Democracy makes a come back, and rightly so. I am proud to stand up for democracy.

And I agree. Milk shake could easily be acid. To throw any substance at another could have dire consequences. The person who threw it should be condemned.

but separating Farage from a microphone is a public service!

Only in your pro-EU, pro-Brussels, anti-democracy bubble though, Trisher.

Don't tell me you don't approve of the right to be different, the right to free speech and the ideals of democracy Trisher?

Good grief. You'll be burning human rights legislation next if you Remainers retain your biased views....

Farage speaks about the ills of the EU, the betrayal of the referendum vote by Remainer MPs and the ridiculous and useless nature of our two party system of government - and people listen.

It must frighten Remainers that someone who is a good orator, (he is, whether you like him or not) someone who also feels strongly that our politicians have deceived us, has done something about it and the disenfranchised, the unheard, the little people, at last have a voice.

Leavers have been trodden underfoot. Democracy is in tatters. I am happy that we are protesting.

A vote for the Brexit Party is a protest vote from those who have been swept aside by our politicians. I am all for the freedom to protest.

Aren't you?

Being a good orator does not make one a good person. We can point to many historical figures who come into that category. None has come to defend their previous support of threats and thuggish behaviour towards public figures. Telling.

Being a good orator does not make one a good person

Who said they were one and the same? Not me.
However, those who have been swept aside by two major parties who promised to respect and adhere to the result of the referendum have lied.

People have been lied to by those in Westminster who want to remain in the EU.

Now their is a party, a vehicle of protest. The Conservatives and Labour are supporting Remainers.

MPs couldn't care less about their constituents Leave wishes. Should we not be angry? Should we lie down and roll over?

No.

Who cares who formed it? But every word Brexit Party members put out about the present EU shambles is true. We have been deceived.

We do need fairness and the Brexit Party provides a voice and some sense of justice for at least 17.5 million people.

The focus should not be on ' who ' was on the receiving end in an a mature debate but whether or not it is ' acceptable' behaviour.

Our politicians from ALL parties, prior to and after the murder of Jo Cox, have been viewed perversely by many as some species to both verbally and physically attack, some see them as ' Fair Game ' and with the enablement of usually hiding behind anonymity this has reached crisis levels of vile, threatening, harrasment reported constantly.

Whether it be Corbyn or Forage, Right or Left of politics our politicians are NOT ' fair game'.

If it cannot be understood that just because you disagree with another person's politics you condone the act of throwing objects, harrasment, verbal abuse, scribing vile comments /jokes at those you oppose that in turn makes you equally responsible for what is happening, albeit in a less provocative way.

The contempt for politicians as we all witness daily has sunk to the cess pit of abuse. Perversely some people find it OK and amusing if and when it suits their own agenda .

Whether it be an egg thrown at Corbyn or a milkshake thrown at Forage the point is it is a puerile act but there is a serious side and our politicians, indeed anybody, should be allowed to carry out there campaigning free of harrasment.