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The unofficial 2nd EU referundum taking place today 23rd May 2019

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Firecracker123 Thu 23-May-19 13:08:45

Remainers keep asking for a Confirmatory vote well in my opinion this is it. All voters have one Vote use it today to vote Leave or Remain at your polling station.

Official results on Sunday night but feel free to do a GN vote here as well if so inclined.

lemongrove Thu 23-May-19 16:22:13

Perhaps some posters like to verify things first, before they start condemning.
If any EU nationals did apply in good time to vote and didn’t receive what they needed, then it’s either the council employees or the PO to blame.It’s not a vast conspiracy.

Firecracker123 Thu 23-May-19 16:23:28

GracesGran why so nasty, of course I know it's not a referendum lol but Remainers are always going on about a Confirmatory referendum so with that in mind and the Brexit Party being for Leave and the Lib Dems being Remain its just a bit of light hearted fun and the official result on Sunday will be an indication of how the voters feel.

Firecracker123 Thu 23-May-19 16:31:31

mcem why so nasty is it a remainer trait?

mcem Thu 23-May-19 17:03:31

Simply pointing out a very basic mistake.
And you wonder why some of us are less than happy that such misinformation is peddled by many an NF supporter. Says it all really!
Or put another way.....
Why so ill-informed? Is it a leaver trait?

dayvidg Thu 23-May-19 17:05:48

Slightly confused. First we have non-UK nationals complaining about difficulties registering to vote in the UK; then it's UK nationals living in France complaining about not getting their postal voting forms in time to vote in the UK. If eligibility is based on residency, why are ex-pats not voting in THEIR country of residence?

Maggiemaybe Thu 23-May-19 17:08:24

Well I voted Remain in the referendum but do not agree that we should have a second one, so could discount most options. I voted Labour, btw.

Why does every thread on News & Politics have to descend into a slanging match?

Maggiemaybe Thu 23-May-19 17:12:07

I should add that I voted Labour with no great enthusiasm. I hate to think that one day I’ll be so disenchanted that I won’t use my hard-won vote, but I fear that time may come.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 23-May-19 17:14:26

dayvigd

Ex pats can choose where they want to register their vote

Firecracker123 Thu 23-May-19 17:14:37

Why indeed.

mcem Thu 23-May-19 17:15:45

I take your point maggie but believe that condoning the breaching of rules in such a way, has to be questioned. Also I don't choose to be hectored by someone who is so lacking in basic knowledge.
But you're right so I am off to do something more useful than reading this brexit nonsense.

kittylester Thu 23-May-19 17:19:07

Actually, we have already had 2 referenda re staying in the EU/Common Market.

Beammeupscottie Thu 23-May-19 17:24:55

Best of three, I say.

In passing I was no 39 at my polling station to-day;at 4. pm.; such interest.

Maggiemaybe Thu 23-May-19 17:27:16

I didn’t get to vote in the first referendum as we were living in Germany (which may be pertinent to issues raised earlier about ex-pats). It was a blanket ban. Living abroad = no say in the matter.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 23-May-19 17:37:06

Firecracker why on earth do you believe that an election for one purpose should be seen as a referendum for another. It really does come over as an attempt to deprive certain British citizens of their right to democracy but it seems it's just a joke to you.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 23-May-19 17:41:00

Whitewave it looks as if the electoral commission is getting involved and I notice Gina Miller is taking an interest too.

Firecracker123 Thu 23-May-19 17:44:31

GracesGran don't participate then for goodness sake it's only a light hearted thread on Gransnet.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 23-May-19 17:45:30

Yes. I hope that there is nothing to it but it is worrying.

The U.K. has never been queried over its democratic process.

But honestly, is there anything that is right since the Tories came to office?

lovebeigecardigans1955 Thu 23-May-19 17:49:37

It'll be interesting to see what the result is. It looks as though the turn-out is pretty low (so far). I asked the young woman at the desk if they'd had many people coming in to vote and she said that I was only the 20th person she'd seen - it was almost mid-day.

GabriellaG54 Thu 23-May-19 18:14:03

Each council chooses their method of posting voting papers. Either RM or another company which I've not heard of before, Adare SEC, which diverts mail through the Netherlands regardless of where it's destination is.
The government and some councils have not put clear info on their websites to let expats and EU nationals know the hows and whens of applying for the forms needed to vote in any one country and, more importantly, the date by which they had to be returned (May 7th) to the issuing office.
Adere SEC say that all mail was delivered within the approved timescale.
The Electoral Commission had nothing to do with it. Local councils each made their own arrangements.

EllanVannin Thu 23-May-19 18:21:54

It's a " throw-away " vote from me !

Gonegirl Thu 23-May-19 18:28:58

Seems to me we are only holding this election to be polite to the EU. As we know, all existing members have to have this election for it to be valid. We can';t possibly cause them any more trouble!

It IS totally pointless from our point of view.No matter what some know-it-all kind poster has pointed out to me on the thread. smile

varian Thu 23-May-19 18:32:55

It is a legal requirement for all member countries to hold MEP elections at this time. The UK is a member country and most UK citizens want us to remain in the EU so those elected today could make an important contribution in the coming years.

Do not vote for a wrecker. That would do us all a disservice. Vote for a candidate who will represent the UK well and speak up for our interests.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 23-May-19 18:34:58

It most certainly isn't Firecracker. I do see that there are people who take our democracy light heartedly, never learning about how it actually works, etc. Until and after mine is taken away by people who treat it as a joke assisting in that process I will defend it.

EllanVannin Thu 23-May-19 18:37:12

The ballot box was so chock full the woman was poking the votes down with a stick. Looks like the world and its dog turned out here. This was 6.15pm.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 23-May-19 18:39:42

So your level of knowledge is that the electoral commission has nothing to do with our elections Gabriella? You may have just changed my view of Brexiteers completely.