The Labour Party

So we can say Corbyn is prejudiced?

He is nasty and mean, rides a bike and eats lentils. He is a real baddie who reads Marx.

I prefer Donald and Nigel. They tell it how it is.

If you are referring to Trump and Farage, far from "telling like it is" these are two of the most habitual liars ever to have been elected to anything. The evidence is overwhelming. Just try googling to see long lists of their lies.

Need look no further than the top of the Labour Party for liars

So we can say Corbyn is prejudiced?

Well we all know you can and you will Annie.

I would guess that, although we all have subconscious prejudice in some way or other, some are blind to their own.

Perhaps that is the problem for Corbynites

So Robert Winston could be prejudiced, I am prejudiced,

???????

Annie yes I'm as prejudiced as anyone else.
I try to keep quiet about it though.
In my early days on here I admitted to a racial prejudice. Well, 2. And try to change it by reading etc.
Many don't agree with my view.

Labour spokesman on whether Labour is a Remain Party:

"We're not in that zone. We've never said that. We've said we will campaign for Remain against a damaging Tory deal or against no-deal in a referendum, but there are other circumstances that could occur."

??

urmstongran, we are diametrically opposed on what can be summed up simply as 'left or right' political commitment and interest.

However, your post at 17.34 today (Thursday 25 July) is a glorious reflection of the nightmare that is overtaking traditional Labour voters - I should know, I am one.

I mentioned some time ago a conversation I had with a taxi driver here in the NE, a traditional Labour stronghold. but they voted 'Leave'. Because "we can cope on our own. "
Today I asked him about Boris - in short, he replied as long as he can get us out I don't care what party he is. We're sick of all the messing about.
Another sign of change here- in the local elections one ward moved from Labour to LibDem.

Think many have reached the same Fennel, sick of it All.

Grandad re Peterborough I was a poster who found the Peterborough bi election results difficult to swallow .

Out of the 33,998 ballot papers counted, 9,898 were postal votes, with approximately 400 of these being rejected because of discrepancies in details including signatures and dates of births not matching the council records.

That is an extremely high percentage of postal votes.

The Electoral Commission in 2014 (if I remember correctly) named Peterborough as one of 16 authorities as a greater risk of fraud taking place. Happy to be corrected.

So I was surprised when I saw it on the BBC but accept the Police finding.

Do those who are "sick of it all" think people will suddenly put aside their differences once the UK has left the EU? Will money and opportunities magically appear to make life better for those who feel the London government is neglecting them? Will they really feel better having a blue passport?

The whole narrative of being "sick of it all" is a scam by Brexiters to get people to accept any agreement just to get it over and done with, no matter what harm it does to them personally and the country as a whole? They're fighting the wrong battle. Rather than turning on the EU, they should be putting pressure on the UK government to facilitate a fairer country.

Sadly, people are falling for the scam.

Grandad

"Anniebach, 15 members of the Tory Party have been expelled from that party in the last few weeks for there islamophobic and anti-semitic statements on social media and then readmitted to the party within a few days"
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The recent Panorama programme on Labour and antisemitism said there was a backlog of 1,000 anti-Semitism allegations and only ' 15 ' people having been expelled.

The Panorama program did not particularly shine a light on what was already spoken of, including in the House Of Parliament by Labour's own MP's who have been challenging Corbyn to act for months.

I accept that antisemitism and Islamophobia are not restricted to any one party but the denial by some it is remotely possible in Labour has astounded me for over 3 years now.

I asked previously and I will ask again.

If there is a snap General Election, very possible, Labour wins .

Is Labour now a REMAIN Party or EXIT party ?

Now POGS, don’t be putting pressure on the labour leadership to give a clear, consistent and united message on Brexit, it’s unfair to Mr Corbyn.

Who knows POGS, I don’t think they are a remain party,
McClusky certainly isn’t a remainer, Corbyn definitely isn’t

The postal votes as a percentage of the total number of papers received in the Peterborough byelection was 29%. That's high, but not "extremely high". In the 2017 GE, the average was 18.2% with considerable variation across regions. The North East, for example, was 26%. The percentage of people who return postal votes is always higher than those who turn up in person and the percentage of people applying for postal votes has been rising year on year. As a strategy, Labour activists in Peterborough suggested to people that they apply for postal votes. Labour badly wanted to win Peterborough, so it flooded the area with activists, spent hours door knocking and wouldn't accept excuses from people at work, on holiday, who found it difficult to get to the polling station, etc. There's nothing illegal about that. I have no idea whether cheating went on, but unfounded suspicions and smears should be treated with caution.

Voting intentions in case of a GE...
Conservatives
Lib Dems
Labour
Brexit Party.

POGS Corbyn is still waiting for Seamus Milne to tell him the answer to the question you posed.

Thank you Iam64
We agree on something!

Corbyn has to listen to Milne, McClusky, MacDonald .

It depends which poll you follow, POGS.

The latest average of polls has Labour in the lead:
Labour 25%
Conservative 23%
Brexit Party 21%
LDs 18%
Green 7%
(and, of course, parties such as the SNP, Plaid and the DUP, which are regional)

The percentages are so close that they're meaningless.. The FPTP system depends how concentrated in one area they are. There's always statistical error and people change their minds quite significantly if there's a new scandal!

Labour has a problem with Brexit. If it comes out as a Remain Party, it might pick up some votes/seats from the LDs, which might mean that the LDs lose out in LD/Con marginals. However, Labour would almost certainly also lose seats to the Brexit Party, especially in its northern heartlands. Meanwhile, the Brexit Party could very well lose votes back to the Conservatives, given the approach of the Johnson government. The vast majority of Labour voters are pro-Remain, but they're concentrated in areas such as London and Manchester, which are solidly Labour anyway.

Polls are a useless predictor of a GE result in the current climate.