Labour anti-semitism

Have just seen this on Twitter

trisher Sat 08-Jun-19 12:55:00

" So you would allow the community to remain but feel free to criticise them from outside? How does that work with criticism of Israel. I don't live there. Should I be free to criticise them?."
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There has been a stock response to your repeated question and the answer that has been given copious amount of times is YES by many posters.

It is perfectly in order to criticise Israel but it is Antisemitic to attack the Jewish race or individual Jewish people because of their race.

How many more times.!

I criticise Israel for expanding it's territory I do not think I am being Antisemitic but if I was vile enough to say to a female Jewish MP -

Hang yourself you vile treacherous Zionist Tory filth. You are a cancer of humanity.”

“Ruth Smeeth is a Zionist—she has no shame—and trades on the murder of Jews by Hitler—whom the Zionists betrayed.”

“Ruth Smeeth must surely be travelling 1st class to Tel Aviv with all that slush. After all, she’s complicit in trying to bring Corbyn down.”

“First job for Jeremy Corbyn tomorrow—expel the Zionist BICOM smear hag bitch Ruth Smeeth from the Party.”

“This Ruth Smeeth bitch is Britainophobic, we need to cleanse our nation of these types.”

“#JC4PM Deselect Ruth Smeeth ASAP. Poke the pig—get all Zionist child killer scum out of Labour.”

“You are a spy! You are evil, satanic! Leave! #Labour #Corbyn.”

“Ruth you are a Zionist plant, I’m ashamed you are in Labour. Better suited to the murderous Knesset! #I Support Ken.”

“Your fellow traitor Tony Blair abolished hanging for treason. Your kind need to leave before we bring it back #Smeeth Is Filth.”

Then I think only blatant conspiracy theorists or deniers would not think I was being Antisemitic.

Sadly the deniers and conspiracy theorists abound as we have seen over the past few years when Corbyn became Labour Leader , even on gransnet. That is a defining moment when Labour MP's and councillors started to receive vile treatment and woe betide any MP who did not back Corbyn.

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From The Times

trueblue22 Sat 08-Jun-19 12:48:46
trisher If it were I most likely would leave that country and say criticise from the outside.

It is an option of course but mightn't it seem a little cowardly not to stand up against things you think are wrong in your own country?

I know sometimes that isn't possible and people like the Free French, Free Norweign, the Polish Armed Forces and others all fought from outside their countries when they were overrun but don't you stay and fight until that point?

Well POGS I couldn't see it, you seem to have seen the wrong pattern and Beckett was equally led astray. However, it is easy when we are actually told. What I don't understand, Bridgeit, is all the MI5 stuff.

It seems we all thought of something extralegal either to the country or internationally but it was little old GNHQ. They actually seem quite happy to let this run - perhaps equally confused. I, personally, don't think they will lay down the sort of rules you expect Bridgeit. I would be censorship which doesn't seem to be what GN is about.

There has been a stock response to your repeated question and the answer that has been given copious amount of times is YES by many posters.

Do you know POGS, I haven't seen that once on here. On this thread, I have got just the opposite impression. So we, thanks to the rule-makers of GN, are now allowed to criticise the behaviour of the Israeli government in their actions towards Palestine. I shall bank that for another day I think.

I don't think your quotes are from anyone on here, are they? In fact, do we know who exactly made them? Were they members of any political party? Where is this evidence? Rather than an "outside body", I would be more interested in what the police have done about it. Have we got a statement?

Ha Ha Admit it, you know someone just like this.

I believe this genius is
@SirStevoTimothy

twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/status/1137377693736087553?s=20

Grany Sat 08-Jun-19 17:53:14

Brilliant. I know who they modelled it on (and I bet you know who I'm thinking of).

POGS.

I echo GGMK3's last paragraph at 17.04. Please put your quotes in context.

They remind me of a thread I saw on twitter this morning. It was about a completely different subject, Meghan Markle. A series of excerpts from Mail Online articles with a selection of the comments on the articles. The comments were exactly similar in tone to the ones you have quoted. Products of some very sick minds, IMO.

Of course, sick minds aren't confined to one particular group and if some members of a group do make such vile comments they are not indicative of the thoughts of the group as a whole; they are indicative of the fact that some individuals have sick minds.

(Here's the twitter thread: twitter.com/DMReporter/status/1091305722242056193

GracesGranMK3 Ha Ha yes I think I do I know a few too.

maizie good grief. Extraordinary.

Oh, Maizie.

DMReporter is neither a reporter nor does he work for the Daily Mail.

I thought this thread was about anti-semitism not The Duchess of Sussex?

Oh, this Rachael Swindon??

Speaks for itself.....https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/tom-watson/news/103416/tom-watson-accuses-labour-mp-spreading

DMReporter is neither a reporter nor does he work for the Daily Mail.

No, he doesn't, that's someone's twitter handle. What has that got to do with it? The screenshots he posted were from the Mail Online.

I thought this thread was about anti-semitism not The Duchess of Sussex?

Try reading my post, GG13. I thought I'd set out my reason for posting that thread quite clearly enough.

Still waiting for POGS to tell us more about the tweets she posted. Like, some context, perhaps? though I know, to my cost, that she doesn't 'do' context

GGMK3

" Well POGS I couldn't see it, you seem to have seen the wrong pattern and Beckett was equally led astray. "
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Eh?

Couldn't see what ?
Led astray where?

GGMK3

Do you know POGS, I haven't seen that once on here. On this thread, I have got just the opposite impression. So we, thanks to the rule-makers of GN, are now allowed to criticise the behaviour of the Israeli government in their actions towards Palestine. I shall bank that for another day I think.

Ioa don't think your quotes are from anyone on here, are they? In fact, do we know who exactly made them? Were they members of any political party? Where is this evidence? Rather than an "outside body", I would be more interested in what the police have done about it. Have we got a statement?
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If you haven't seen it then that is your problem it has been said on GN for years.

Your sarcasm re ' I shall bank that for another day ' , I hope you do but I doubt it.

As for :-

" Ioa don't think your quotes are from anyone on here, are they? In fact, do we know who exactly made them? Were they members of any political party? Where is this evidence? Rather than an "outside body", I would be more interested in what the police have done about it. Have we got a statement?"

Which quotes?

MaizieD Sat 08-Jun-19 18:11:02
POGS.

I echo GGMK3's last paragraph at 17.04. Please put your quotes in context.
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Which quotes?

Grany that's brilliant-so funny and true. Thanks.
I see POGS no further clarification on context. Easier to focus on something else.
This discussion is getting ridiculous. No one has proved anything except there is anti-semitism, some people who are anti-semitic may or may not be members of the Labour Party. Just as there are anti-semites in every area, in every community, every where. But it remains only the Labour party that is being investigated leaving one assumes the rest of the anti-semites to do as they wish. It is very worrying. Like protesting the white paint your decorator is using isn't white enough and ignoring his apprentice who has already painted one wall grey.

That YouTube link mirrors so many posts on this thread it is uncanny

Maizied

"Still waiting for POGS to tell us more about the tweets she posted. Like, some context, perhaps? though I know, to my cost, that she doesn't 'do' context"
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I am so sorry I went out for the evening without your b----y permission.

Which ' tweets' have I posted? I do not post ' tweets' as Cameron once said ' Too many tweets make a twat '.

What post/posts have I made where you would like some ' context '.

Point proven?

trisher

" I see POGS no further clarification on context. Easier to focus on something else."
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I see the cabal has united .

Clarification on what context?

What am I focussing on to make it easier?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 09-Jun-19 10:19:32
Point proven?
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What point has been proven?