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Sadiq Kahn’s views on Donald Trump - unprofessional?

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Kandinsky Sun 02-Jun-19 19:03:24

Not sure if gransnetters outside of London know what our mayor is saying, but he’s going way over the top in my opinion.
He really needs to keep his personal hatred of another politician to himself, especially a politician who’s one of our greatest allies.

What do you think?

Gonegirl Wed 05-Jun-19 17:58:14

Perhaps they should have had referendum on it.

crystaltipps Wed 05-Jun-19 18:00:07

day6 it was you who claimed there was a left wing bubble, I pointed out it works both ways, so your turntable merely illustrates the spurious “bubble” assertion you made initially.

ClareAB Wed 05-Jun-19 18:05:06

I think Mr Khan is right. Bearing in mind the saying 'all that needs for evil to be done, is for good men to stand by and do nothing'

Opal Wed 05-Jun-19 18:06:32

Day6 and EllanVannin - couldn't agree more with you guys, spot on with your posts.

Left-wing hypocrisy and sinister agenda at its best. Excellent post Day6.

Elvive - the connection between knife crime and Khan permitting a balloon is that he should be spending his time battling the former, instead of wasting his time getting involved with the latter. He should be exercising diplomacy and respect and restraint with regard to the latter. What a buffoon he is.

And as I said in an earlier post, Labour's waste of space leader sees fit to criticise POTUS, but is willing to talk to Hezbollah, the IRA, Hamas and other terrorist organisations. How can anyone, in all conscience, ever vote for him as leader of this country?

Elvive Wed 05-Jun-19 18:47:46

So the increase in knife crime could be halted if only SK had not spent 2 minutes sanctioning a balloon, yes of course, that makes perfect sense.

Elvive Wed 05-Jun-19 18:48:55

Why oh why do people assume anybody not enamoured by the status quo is therefore in love with JC?

Elvive Wed 05-Jun-19 18:53:25

Thank You EV, er no I don't need help. I would suggest that knife crime is complex and knocking on the door of number 10 probably won't cut it. Perhaps instead of closing down projects with a proven record of success the government could invest in them.

www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/mayoral/mayor-supports-43-local-anti-knife-crime-projects

Glammy57 Wed 05-Jun-19 19:47:49

Elvive, Trisher, Ginny42, Varian - thank you for your kind words.

Being on Gransnet reminds me of my days in a girls grammar school.

As Michelle Obama said: “When they go low, you go high”

Peace and Eid Mubarak!

varian Wed 05-Jun-19 20:00:54

Trump explained-

Why Narcissists And Gaslighters Blatantly Lie -- And Get Away With It

www.forbes.com/sites/stephaniesarkis/2019/06/02/why-narcissists-and-gaslighters-blatantly-lie-and-get-away-with-it/#13915af443b0

Glammy57 Wed 05-Jun-19 20:10:59

Varian - thanks for sharing the link, I found it interesting!

Callistemon Wed 05-Jun-19 20:11:13

When they go low, you go high

Good motto, isn't it!
What a pity that Corbyn and Khan have not taken that to heart.
Trump too.

POGS I assumed you meant politicians when you posted about the hypocrisy of those who consort with some world leaders with dubious reputations and not with others.

I didn't think you meant gransnetters - although I have seen defence of some you mention on threads and quite recently too.

Your post is entirely valid.

Anniebach Wed 05-Jun-19 20:15:07

Why refuse an invitation to dinner from the Queen because of dislike of one guest yet ask to meet the disliked guest the next day.

Elvive Wed 05-Jun-19 20:17:22

Maybe he fancied fish and chips that night?

Elvive Wed 05-Jun-19 20:18:04

or a hallomi/jackfruit substitute?

Glammy57 Wed 05-Jun-19 20:23:24

Elvive, ?

I would probably go for the halloumi/jackass alternative. Oops, I meant jackfruit!

Elvive Wed 05-Jun-19 20:47:42

mmmm, jackass in a bun, yummy

POGS Wed 05-Jun-19 23:39:46

trisher

"POGS if you can produce any posts or threads where people have suported any of those peole can you please do so. If not your entire post is invalid. No one has supported these people. No one has applauded what they are doing, whereas many on here think Trump is a good guy and have said so."
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I am glad posters realised I was indeed thinking of those politicians who were demonstrating against Trump not GN posters. However the thread on Venezuela could be an example where I differ over Modurro to ' some ' other posters.

I said:-

" Both Khan and Trump should behave with more diplomacy for heavens sake but the hypocrisy by ' some' that surrounds the whole thing is astounding.

Hypocrisy by those who won't say a bad word against the likes of Moduro, Aung San Suu Kyi, Putin, Assad, Hammas, Hezbollah, Erdigan, Iran etc.

They all have either ' acted' out murder, caused untold harm to their own people, caused millions to leave their homeland, would throw homosexual off buildings, imprisoned dissenters etc. "
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So let's consider those I mentioned and Corbyn as an example.

Modurro, still feted by the left, little to no condemnation of Modurro . Venezuala still hailed as a Socialist country the UK should aspire to according to the Labour Shadow Cabinet.

Aung San Suu Kyi, given the next best thing to a State Visit when she came to the UK. Positively feted but when she in turn became part of the genocide and fleeing of the Rohinga Muslims some of those who feted her then still remain oddly quiet.

Putin, given a State Visit to the UK. Corbyn and the Labour Shadow Cabinet defend Putin over our own Secret Service over the Salisbury poisoning.

Assad, Labour Shadow Cabinet again defends Assad / Russia against our own Intelligence Service.

Hamas/Hezbollah, Corbyn describes them as ' Friends' yet Hamas is black listed as a terror group.

Iran, I have watched Corbyn presenting when he stood in for George Galloway on Iranian State TV . Does he bother about the human rights of countries that he appears to favour or just those he despises.

So yes when Trump is the focus of such hate as we saw and heard at the protests over Trumps visit and the likes of Corbyn/Thornberry et al don't hold to the same principle to countries and individuals who are close to their long standing views and say bugger all I do call them hypocrites .

Bercow/Corbyn/Cable were disrespectful to our Queen but that will mean nothing to them. They were lacking in political gravitas and put their personal feelings before the politics involved in running a country . Whether or not 'they like the incumbent President is neither here nor there if they had any maturity, a good statesman / politician would understand it is the position of Potus and maintaining good relations with an Ali which should be more important than personal feelings .

Before anybody accuses me of being a Trump fan then forget it.! My personal feeling is he is wrong on so many fronts but when those I mentioned are somehow viewed as not worthy of being treated with the contempt and ire dished out to Trump then I do wonder where this country will be if certain politicians were in power to be honest.

trisher Thu 06-Jun-19 11:40:00

Ah yes the imagined support for Moduro POGS where some of us actually addressed the causes of the Venezuelan tragedy instead of throwing up our hands and crying "Communists again". Which was condemned as support for Moduro but obviously was not, but was an effort to examine the real causes of a human tragedy and the involvement of other countries in it. An explanation that was too difficult a concept for some who need something much more simplistic
As for "if they go lower go higher". The Trump balloon was pretty high!

Opal Thu 06-Jun-19 11:52:03

And there's another example trisher of left wing snobbery - "an explanation that was too difficult a concept for some who need something much more simplistic". POGS post was excellent and raised many pertinent points - sadly your only answer is to claim the intellectual high ground - which in itself is a low form of sarcasm.

EllanVannin Thu 06-Jun-19 12:50:20

Kahn should be taking a leaf out of Mo Salah's book ! MS has been an inspiration in Liverpool.

trisher Thu 06-Jun-19 13:10:34

If POGS viewed the extensive and detailed discussions about the Venezuelan problem as Modurro, still feted by the left, little to no condemnation of Modurro . Venezuala still hailed as a Socialist country Opal I don't know what else it can be apart from a lack of understanding, or are you suggesting (heaven forbid) that POGS right wing prejudices have influenced those views?

Elvive Thu 06-Jun-19 15:02:44

Who is Mo Salah please?

Opal Thu 06-Jun-19 15:03:51

trisher - no more than your left wing prejudices have influenced yours, sadly.

crystaltipps Thu 06-Jun-19 15:08:10

Mo Salah is a highly paid footballer, not a politician, so why he should be a role model for a political figure I’m not sure. Other than being from a Muslim background I’m not sure why the two are seen to be comparable.

Elvive Thu 06-Jun-19 15:22:49

What a joke and people go on about left wing prejudice and the so called PC Brigade .

Mo Salah= Muslim
Sadiq Khan= Muslim.

One a professional footballer paid a fortune for kicking a ball, the other berated because he can't stop knife crime.