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Sadiq Kahn’s views on Donald Trump - unprofessional?

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Kandinsky Sun 02-Jun-19 19:03:24

Not sure if gransnetters outside of London know what our mayor is saying, but he’s going way over the top in my opinion.
He really needs to keep his personal hatred of another politician to himself, especially a politician who’s one of our greatest allies.

What do you think?

Elvive Fri 07-Jun-19 09:03:04

There is no defeat because there is no contest. I think comparing 2 people because they happen to be Muslim is very silly indeed. But there we have it.

Oh and talking about the PC Brigade is also rather silly.

EllanVannin Fri 07-Jun-19 08:54:41

Can you get any sillier, Elvive ? Why don't you admit defeat instead of digging yourself a hole ?

crystaltipps Fri 07-Jun-19 04:51:31

Why isn’t Trump more like Harry Kane?
silly comparisons.

Elvive Thu 06-Jun-19 23:25:57

What a facile and pointless comparison.

I'll think you may find Trump didn't need any help with divisions. Possibly describing neo Nazis as fine people is pretty divisive.

EllanVannin Thu 06-Jun-19 23:11:33

Aren't mayors role models for their cities then ? Or supposed to be.

Mo Salah has done a lot for the city that he loves by bringing communities together.

Sadiq Khan was creating divisions by sanctioning a hate Trump campaign.

Elvive Thu 06-Jun-19 23:00:08

Is Sadiq Khan a role model or has he ever wished to be so?

Probably not. Therefore comparing him to a footballer ( potential role model? ) is rather foolish.

The only connection between the two is their faith.

Callistemon Thu 06-Jun-19 22:47:28

I think more young people would be inspired by a footballer than a Mayor.

Possibly sad, but true.

Callistemon Thu 06-Jun-19 22:45:56

Both role models?

As for Neil Armstrong and Father Christmas, ie St Nicholas

hmm an astronaut -v- a saint?
Possible.

Elvive Thu 06-Jun-19 22:40:20

But how on earth can you compare a professional footballer to a politician? Would we compare say Neil Armstrong and Father Christmas.......it's ludicrous.

Callistemon Thu 06-Jun-19 22:30:25

Actually, Elvive, it's not so funny and perhaps not something to mock.

I don't know this footballer but if he inspires other young people (of whatever religion or ethnic background) to try to achieve their ambitions whatever they may be, that can only be a good thing.

The same can be said for Khan, of course, for what he has achieved, but he has let himself down just lately.
He should show more dignity befitting his office.

Elvive Thu 06-Jun-19 22:05:53

jape

Elvive Thu 06-Jun-19 22:05:45

Hilarious, I would suggest comparing a footballer to the Mayor because they are both Muslim is off the scale of anything I have come across. Still if Lara thinks it's a jolly jaoe , so be it.

LaraGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 06-Jun-19 21:45:56

Hello GNHQ here. Left-wing/right-wing/chicken wing - all wings' views allowed and if you don't agree with a particular wing, that's fine but please don't make it personal.
Thanks smile

Elvive Thu 06-Jun-19 15:22:49

What a joke and people go on about left wing prejudice and the so called PC Brigade .

Mo Salah= Muslim
Sadiq Khan= Muslim.

One a professional footballer paid a fortune for kicking a ball, the other berated because he can't stop knife crime.

crystaltipps Thu 06-Jun-19 15:08:10

Mo Salah is a highly paid footballer, not a politician, so why he should be a role model for a political figure I’m not sure. Other than being from a Muslim background I’m not sure why the two are seen to be comparable.

Opal Thu 06-Jun-19 15:03:51

trisher - no more than your left wing prejudices have influenced yours, sadly.

Elvive Thu 06-Jun-19 15:02:44

Who is Mo Salah please?

trisher Thu 06-Jun-19 13:10:34

If POGS viewed the extensive and detailed discussions about the Venezuelan problem as Modurro, still feted by the left, little to no condemnation of Modurro . Venezuala still hailed as a Socialist country Opal I don't know what else it can be apart from a lack of understanding, or are you suggesting (heaven forbid) that POGS right wing prejudices have influenced those views?

EllanVannin Thu 06-Jun-19 12:50:20

Kahn should be taking a leaf out of Mo Salah's book ! MS has been an inspiration in Liverpool.

Opal Thu 06-Jun-19 11:52:03

And there's another example trisher of left wing snobbery - "an explanation that was too difficult a concept for some who need something much more simplistic". POGS post was excellent and raised many pertinent points - sadly your only answer is to claim the intellectual high ground - which in itself is a low form of sarcasm.

trisher Thu 06-Jun-19 11:40:00

Ah yes the imagined support for Moduro POGS where some of us actually addressed the causes of the Venezuelan tragedy instead of throwing up our hands and crying "Communists again". Which was condemned as support for Moduro but obviously was not, but was an effort to examine the real causes of a human tragedy and the involvement of other countries in it. An explanation that was too difficult a concept for some who need something much more simplistic
As for "if they go lower go higher". The Trump balloon was pretty high!

POGS Wed 05-Jun-19 23:39:46

trisher

"POGS if you can produce any posts or threads where people have suported any of those peole can you please do so. If not your entire post is invalid. No one has supported these people. No one has applauded what they are doing, whereas many on here think Trump is a good guy and have said so."
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I am glad posters realised I was indeed thinking of those politicians who were demonstrating against Trump not GN posters. However the thread on Venezuela could be an example where I differ over Modurro to ' some ' other posters.

I said:-

" Both Khan and Trump should behave with more diplomacy for heavens sake but the hypocrisy by ' some' that surrounds the whole thing is astounding.

Hypocrisy by those who won't say a bad word against the likes of Moduro, Aung San Suu Kyi, Putin, Assad, Hammas, Hezbollah, Erdigan, Iran etc.

They all have either ' acted' out murder, caused untold harm to their own people, caused millions to leave their homeland, would throw homosexual off buildings, imprisoned dissenters etc. "
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So let's consider those I mentioned and Corbyn as an example.

Modurro, still feted by the left, little to no condemnation of Modurro . Venezuala still hailed as a Socialist country the UK should aspire to according to the Labour Shadow Cabinet.

Aung San Suu Kyi, given the next best thing to a State Visit when she came to the UK. Positively feted but when she in turn became part of the genocide and fleeing of the Rohinga Muslims some of those who feted her then still remain oddly quiet.

Putin, given a State Visit to the UK. Corbyn and the Labour Shadow Cabinet defend Putin over our own Secret Service over the Salisbury poisoning.

Assad, Labour Shadow Cabinet again defends Assad / Russia against our own Intelligence Service.

Hamas/Hezbollah, Corbyn describes them as ' Friends' yet Hamas is black listed as a terror group.

Iran, I have watched Corbyn presenting when he stood in for George Galloway on Iranian State TV . Does he bother about the human rights of countries that he appears to favour or just those he despises.

So yes when Trump is the focus of such hate as we saw and heard at the protests over Trumps visit and the likes of Corbyn/Thornberry et al don't hold to the same principle to countries and individuals who are close to their long standing views and say bugger all I do call them hypocrites .

Bercow/Corbyn/Cable were disrespectful to our Queen but that will mean nothing to them. They were lacking in political gravitas and put their personal feelings before the politics involved in running a country . Whether or not 'they like the incumbent President is neither here nor there if they had any maturity, a good statesman / politician would understand it is the position of Potus and maintaining good relations with an Ali which should be more important than personal feelings .

Before anybody accuses me of being a Trump fan then forget it.! My personal feeling is he is wrong on so many fronts but when those I mentioned are somehow viewed as not worthy of being treated with the contempt and ire dished out to Trump then I do wonder where this country will be if certain politicians were in power to be honest.

Elvive Wed 05-Jun-19 20:47:42

mmmm, jackass in a bun, yummy

Glammy57 Wed 05-Jun-19 20:23:24

Elvive, 😂

I would probably go for the halloumi/jackass alternative. Oops, I meant jackfruit!

Elvive Wed 05-Jun-19 20:18:04

or a hallomi/jackfruit substitute?