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WHO DO YOU FANCY FOR OUR NEXT PM, AND WHY?

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Lyndiloo Thu 13-Jun-19 02:14:31

Well, there's 10 left in the race to be our next Prime Minister and voting starts tomorrow.

Who would you LIKE to be the next leader of the Tory party?

And who would you BET on?

Firecracker123 Fri 14-Jun-19 07:56:46

It's the truth.

GabriellaG54 Fri 14-Jun-19 07:58:35

Saw RS on tv yesterday and I was amazed. He looks just as awful when talking as in a still photo.
His chat was the usual guff and I don't agree with his policies. Oh to have another Maggie. She'd have driven a coach and horses through the lot of them.
Rory is off-putting both in looks and policies so I hope he fails in his quest, miserable blighter. ??

Anniebach Fri 14-Jun-19 08:11:00

Thatcher met the same end of her political career as Mrs May, she too left No 10 in tears

Urmstongran Fri 14-Jun-19 08:20:16

Totally agree with you Firecracker123 there seems to be a lot of support for people who are Remainers in the HoC on here - viz Rory Stewart (who was rubbish as Minister for prisons god help us if he got his hand on the tiller as PM), Ken Clarke, Jeremy Hunt backed by Amber Rudd, Stephen Kinnock etc.

Boris will be dynamic and determined. Theresa May, a Remainer at heart, was never up to the task of Leaving. And with Olly Robbins as her wingman I’m not surprised at the dog’s dinner she presented.

Full steam ahead now and not before time!

MaizieD Fri 14-Jun-19 08:22:58

Your comment,*firecracker*, contains as much truth as does Boris Johnson. In other words, none at all.

You let your obsession with leaving the EU override any regard for honesty, decency or morality.

Firecracker123 Fri 14-Jun-19 08:47:47

MaizieD the pot calling the kettle black comes to mind lol.

Firecracker123 Fri 14-Jun-19 08:50:58

Yes Urmstongran full steam ahead fingers crossed ? for the 31st October 2019.

GillT57 Fri 14-Jun-19 08:51:04

firecracker . No you are wrong. Some of us are repelled by the thought of Johnson as PM for myriad reasons which I won't go over again. I think the fact that you are so desperate to leave the EU that you are happy to have this moral degenerate as PM is pathetic.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 14-Jun-19 08:51:07

Ow can we have reached such a low bar?

“Johnson is a gold medal ego-maniac. His chaotic persona is not an act - he is indeed manically disorganised over everything except his own image management. He is also a far more nastier and ruthless person than people realise. I would not take Johnson’s word over whether it is Monday or Tuesday. He is not a man to believe in, respect or to trust, save as a superlative exhibitionist. He is bereft of judgement, loyalty or discretion. Only in a Britain of the 21st century could he have risen so high”

Previous employer of B. Johnson.

GillT57 Fri 14-Jun-19 09:01:24

Actually it has been interesting listening to colleagues of Johnson. They seem to be in two camps. The first as quoted by WW above, and from Chris Patten, Alan Duncan etc and the second as heard on R4 this morning the pathetic toadying by Priti Patel and others who just talk over any discussion of his faults in an obvious attempt to get themselves a future cabinet position.

M0nica Fri 14-Jun-19 09:01:31

Firecracker You sound like a five year old who swears that babies are found under gooseberry bushes.

I may be a Remainer, but I am not a member of the Conservative Party, I have absolutely no say in who becomes its leader and cannot see what difference it will make to me anyway and have no interest in any of the candidates wanting to lead it

But, what I do know is that the front runner is a liar and a cheat, who as Foreign Secretary put the life and liberty of Nazanin Zaghari Radcliffe at risk by stupid misplaced remarks and whose current 'handlers' are afraid to let him give interviews or have any contact with journalists because he is such a loose cannon, and and when we know that this chancer is likely becoming Prime Minister, then we know the political world has hit the basement and gone through the floor.

There were senior Conservatives on the radio this morning saying that if Boris became leader of their party, they would be leaving the Conservative party after 40 or more years membership. Leaving, not because they were leavers or Remainers, but because of the shame of having such a man at its head.

Both our major parties will then have leaders who bring shame to their parties, men who will compete to see how low they can bring their party and this country.

Firecracker if you are happy with this, what can anyone say?

Anniebach Fri 14-Jun-19 09:06:42

Well said MOnica

Rene72 Fri 14-Jun-19 09:06:47

I would hate it if Labour got in! I’ve never been a political person but 4 years ago my husband ‘joined’ the Labour Party and he’s become almost a Corbynista. He’s always been an obnoxious bully but now he’s beyond a joke. None of us can have an opinion, he never listens to our concerns or opinions and if you point something out in the paper or on line he says it’s all lies!
Actually, he became a local Labour councillor 3 years ago and is now also, a county councillor. At 73, sick of his controlling and boring tirades and having 5 little ShiTzus I’d have gone ages ago! He says I should vote Labour to because I should back him up. Honestly, I’d rather eat the damned voting paper and choke on that vote for him!
Feels like I’ve been living with someone I didn’t know for 37 years!

Firecracker123 Fri 14-Jun-19 09:06:54

I and many others it seems like Boris, we've had the vicars daughter Theresa who admits the naughtiest thing she has ever done was run through the farmers wheat fields although she made up for it with all the lies she told as PM, time for a change someone with actual life experience who hopefully has the balls to stand up to the EU.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 14-Jun-19 09:13:08

I feel stunned at our loss of democracy yet again. First a referendum that only a small percentage trust and now the leader of our country is being voted for by less than 1%of the electorate. This small group represents the whole of the wider BrItish public where around a quarter support leaving the EU while within the group an amazing 85% (you gov) support Johnson's no deal.

When things go wrong, as they inevitably will, we will certainly know who to blame. How did we allow our democratic system to be used against the vast majority in this way?

Bridgeit Fri 14-Jun-19 09:15:21

Boris’s life experiences are not of the calibre required to run this country .

Lazigirl Fri 14-Jun-19 09:15:59

I would hope for a person of integrity to run this country and do not see anyone, with the exception of Rory Stewart filling this role. He would possibly make a good leader - of the Lib Dems? My one joy is that Ms McVey, who was the cause of misery to so many in this country is out, but fear we could be in for even worse.

GillT57 Fri 14-Jun-19 09:20:10

rene72 thank you for sharing your story. Your husband sounds like a bully but his Labour party membership is irrelevant. MOnica very well summarised, we are indeed in a sorry state and all this whistling in the dark by firecracker and urmonstongran does not alter this fact. And, fact it is; Johnson is a proven liar, and no amount of whataboutery changes this.

M0nica Fri 14-Jun-19 09:20:34

Boris Johnson has experience of life? Good God, a privately educated, Oxbridge graduate, who has spent the whole of his adult life in the the hot house of political London. and whose experience of office so far is being a less than successful London Mayor and a Foreign Secretary, who cannot get his facts right and puts British citizens he should be protecting in even greater danger.

Or do you think that being a serial adulterer, qualifies as experience of life. If so it is not one I admire. Wherever Boris puts his balls he won't be wasting them on the EU.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 14-Jun-19 09:22:51

It comes to something when even Johnson’s minders can’t trust him enough to “allow” him to talk to anyone.

One he’s off the leash as PM, the bubble will rapidly pop, but we will be left with an idiotic and incompetent.

MaizieD Fri 14-Jun-19 09:25:34

We all know that Johnson was completely indifferent as to whether or not we left the EU. That he chose to back Leave because he thought he would get political advantage from it.

Here's another interesting story about him. It might come as a surprise to his adherents that he is actually in favour of Freedom of Movement.

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1139067505094402049.html

I suggest that Leavers who pin their hopes on him getting us out of the EU may be badly let down. He could change his tune in the blinking of an eye. Leaving utter chaos in his wake, of course.

blondenana Fri 14-Jun-19 09:33:50

Boris wants to bring back fox hunting and was all for the Badger cull and agrees with bullfighting, also wants to lower tax for the rich,
All those things want me to not want him to win

Whitewavemark2 Fri 14-Jun-19 09:39:57

Yes maizie I read that. I must admit I was surprised by that, but given the fact it comes from so many sources I realise that he does indeed support complete freedom of movement

gran5up Fri 14-Jun-19 09:41:57

Larry the cat is the best candidate-and he lives at Number 10 already!

GrannyGravy13 Fri 14-Jun-19 09:43:39

I am in a somewhat different position re Boris Johnson, as I knew a very close relative of his for 15 years (we have lost touch these last 2 yrs).

I would still rather him than anybody from the Labour Party front bench.

Watched Rory Stewart today - cringeworthy - no than you!!