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WHO DO YOU FANCY FOR OUR NEXT PM, AND WHY?

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Lyndiloo Thu 13-Jun-19 02:14:31

Well, there's 10 left in the race to be our next Prime Minister and voting starts tomorrow.

Who would you LIKE to be the next leader of the Tory party?

And who would you BET on?

Urmstongran Fri 14-Jun-19 11:58:59

Let’s not argue. Me too.
I must remember to play the ball and not the (wo)man!
⚽️

Whitewavemark2 Fri 14-Jun-19 12:03:03

Here here. In my previous existence on GN I became the sort of person I simply don’t recognise and got into the gutter. Took an extended break now trying very hard to be me. Play the ball.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 14-Jun-19 12:04:05

But that doesn’t mean I won’t debate like mad?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 14-Jun-19 12:06:07

I think that what GN need is a symbol that we can use when someone is being personal and not debating the point in the politics threads

Urmstongran Fri 14-Jun-19 12:13:53

Well said Ww I totally agree. Debate is good and even better if it is courteous. Actually I think some GN’s who read threads would be more likely to join in then.

Credit to you for checking your historic posts and changing tack. I admire you for your honesty and self assessment.
?

I shall continue to rebut your opinions ha!
But with manners as always.

It does sting when someone is mean.

Elvive Fri 14-Jun-19 12:24:34

Please can you cut and paste me so called " bitchy" comments.

Also petra has been pretty damn rude to me and one or two others.

I am worried sick about the country, the future. I find your crowing and love of Farage hard to handle UG, especially when combined with a sort of carefree comment about the weather in Spain or your fun activities. It feels like rubbing
salt in the wounds.
We see the world through very different lenses clearly.

Grany Fri 14-Jun-19 12:35:10

*Labaik Fri 14-Jun-19 11:08:15

The Tory government and only the Tory government is responsible for the mess we are in It has nothing to do with Jeremy Corbyn or Labour If you want to get angry blame the MSM who are constantly attacking the Labour leader by smearing lies and the BBC who are bias to the conservatives Cameron got his mates top jobs in the BBC Corbyn is very unfairly represented in MSM so people who are not on social media get a false picture If there was a GE the MSM by law have to show both parties and give them both equal air time that is the only way people can make up their minds when they see both sides represented fairly Jeremy Corbyn is strong and dignified to put up with the constant press TV persistent attacking him but he does not retaliate in kind he stands for fairness equality for Labour polices for the many as he always has done

My punctuation has stopped on iPad keyboard at mo

Labaik Fri 14-Jun-19 12:35:32

I agree Elvive; I just can't understand why so many people are not terrified by what is happening at the moment. I feel as if I'm in one of those nightmares that you're desperate to wake up from, but can't...

Labaik Fri 14-Jun-19 12:41:04

Grany; weak leadership on any side of the political divide is dangerous. I just think that Corbyn is a weak leader and that Labours 'perfectly clear' stand on Brexit is clear as mud. He also, as a backbencher voted with his conscience but, now he's leader will not allow others to do so. He is a good man; kind compassionate etc but he's not what the country needs at this moment in time. And I say this as someone that has always been a Labour voter. Believe me, it saddens me greatly that I find that I can't vote Labour again until the leadership changes.

crystaltipps Fri 14-Jun-19 12:41:19

It’s strange how those are drooling over Farage previously backed May, then switching their worship to Raab and now Johnson. Nothing like switching allegiances to supporting the winner. Just shows the shallow nature of certain beliefs.

Urmstongran Fri 14-Jun-19 12:41:37

Oh Elvive give it a rest. As another poster said yesterday, of course life goes on (for us all) whilst Brexit is negotiated! What on Earth is wrong with me having a beer or enjoying the sunshine?

Yes some have concerns which is why people voted (in the minority though) to Remain.

I didn’t.

I shan’t cut and paste. It’s out there but it’s time to move on.

With good grace on my part anyway.

Grany Fri 14-Jun-19 12:56:06

Well Labaik.

I think you are wrong he is very strong to stand by his beliefs Labour polices amid the constant smear campaign. Many thousands joined Labour because of Corbyn

He is just what the many need right now a Labour Party transformative progressive led by the man Jeremy Corbyn who can't be bought nor in Murdock's pockets he is not a career politician that's what people like about him.

Labaik Fri 14-Jun-19 13:58:06

So Johnson has agreed to do a debate on the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation channel. Are they bringing out his pal Dimbleby to chair it, I wonder?

Peardrop50 Fri 14-Jun-19 15:00:23

Alan Sugar, long time Labour supporter and highly successful businessman has endorsed Boris. In my opinion Boris is the man to stand up to the likes of Barnier. Junker and Verhofstad. We don't need a quiet, well spoken, well mannered and reasonable good old chap. We need an intellectual, flamboyant, articulate, unafraid and not necessarily totally pc good old chap in our corner, one who is an eternal optimist with a belief in the UK and our ability to drive us onwards and upwards. As long as we have good people in the various government departments to continue to improve our economy, to get a grip of our current crime epidemic and improve educational standards throughout the country we will be more than OK. I'm backing Boris.

Grany Fri 14-Jun-19 15:09:19

We don't need Boris the buffoon

Elvive Fri 14-Jun-19 15:11:05

UG, I don't think it is for you to ask me to give it a rest. You claimed I made bitchy comments when I didn't.

I will give it a rest though because clearly It's a waste of time.
The lunatics have taken over the asylum and we just have to live our lives.

Cheers.

AlisonKF Fri 14-Jun-19 15:11:33

Like all of the above, I detest the lot of them. I am utterly baffled at the support for Boris. What does he have to offer, even the other Tory MPs?

CarlyD7 Fri 14-Jun-19 15:19:09

AlisonKF Boris offers the chance to save the Tory Party from haemorrhaging votes to Farage & Co, and seeing their Party go under. And saving the Tory Party (and their jobs) is the only thing they care about.

CarlyD7 Fri 14-Jun-19 15:20:25

Boris = No Deal Brexit. He will have to do it to face down Farage & Co, and save the Tory Party; and the EU will never give him a better deal than they gave May. And the rest of us will have to deal with the consequences.

Nanniejc1 Fri 14-Jun-19 15:46:25

Definitely Boris,I voted leave & Cant wait for 31st October,really think that Farage should be in the negotiation team.

M0nica Fri 14-Jun-19 15:49:35

It will take a lot more than a no deal Brexit to rescue the Conservative party. Boris or no Boris.

Both of the major parties are in decline and voters as a whole are sick of the lot of them. Both parties remind me of lemmings running over a cliff edge. One thinks promising heaven on earth with constant promises of bread and circuses and more and more welfare will rescue them, while being riven by anti-semitism of the most unpleasant kind. The other thinks we are greedy fools prepared to sacrifice the weak and suffering for the sake of further tax cuts and that they can redeem themselves, also of heaven on earth by making us emission free by 2050, without giving us any idea how this Nirvana can be reached and the date is too far away for them to need to worry about it anyway..

Baloothefitz Fri 14-Jun-19 16:49:57

I would like it to be Rory ...but fear it shall be Boris.

lemongrove Fri 14-Jun-19 17:10:58

.....however Monica what’s the alternative? The Lib Dems?
? the SNP and the odd ( very odd) Greens?

Much as I hope Johnson won’t be chosen ( I would prefer Raab or Hunt) he is way out front at the moment, but it’s not a done deal he will be picked, the favourite rarely wins.
To those who say it’s not democratic that a small band of people choose the next PM from within their ranks....it’s always done that way, and I don’t remember any bitterness about the fact before now.

lemongrove Fri 14-Jun-19 17:11:44

It won’t be Rory.

MaizieD Fri 14-Jun-19 17:29:18

In my opinion Boris is the man to stand up to the likes of Barnier. Junker and Verhofstad

Problem is, Peardrop that Barnier and the rest already know that Johnson is a lazy, disorganised lying sh*t. Do you think that the UK lives behind some sort of force field that keeps all that's said and done within it a a secret from the rest of the world? They won't be at all impressed by him and would take everything he said with a massive pinch of salt. I think they'd be absolutely prepared to say 'go off and shoot your self in the foot; it will damage you far more than it will damage the EU'.

OTH, Being that he is completely amoral and no more 'believes' in Brexit than does my dog, he might well decide to revoke A50 as being less damaging for the UK and his 'career' (though, I admit, that does credit him with a degree of concern for his country which he probably doesn't have...)