Why do Conservatives like Johnson?

Overgrown schoolboy ??

If we are going to nit-pick, then coordinate adjectives should have a comma between them, eg
despicable, rich boy
As he is 55, boy is hardly the best noun to use either.

Prejudice is not helpful in this serious situation.

It didn't read like that, though, did it.

I'll repeat what I said in my earlier post despising someone because they are rich is prejudiced
Corbyn was a rich boy too

It's Boris's other attributes which are worrying.
As are Corbyn's

lemon 'being rich does not equate with despicable,'

I agree, it just depends what you do with it, and how you treat other people and whether you are prepared to pay tax to support others less fortunate and key services.

As you know, I am not a native speaker of English, but I read Glammy's post as 'he is rich and despicable on top'- and as such, I totally agree with her.

Very interesting Jura. The figures seem to strangely reflect the country. I think, on a "what do I know" basis, that most MPs would not want to involve the Queen if the could avoid it but, in the end, she, as head of state, would have to be the arbiter.

You have to ask just what we have been brought to in an attempt to save the Conservative party though and how some of its members could remain in it whatever happens. Unlike Putin I do not think our view of liberal democracy in the world and certainly in the west, is anything like dead.

I don't think Glammy's post did equate despicable to rich - that is not how we would normally read a list of descriptors.

I would expand this to say (for the nitpickers) that he is both despicable in his carelessness for others and appears to be unjustly wealthy.

Glammy57 being rich does not equate with despicable, and what’s funny about posters calling him BJ if they want to, just as Corbyn is called JC often, an abbreviation and faster to type.

Conservatives have a tiny majority of 3, including the DUP ...

“The key test is whether the Conservatives’ new leader is able to command the confidence of the House of Commons,” they write. “Whether the new Conservative party leader can command parliamentary confidence is clearly in some doubt given comments from Conservative MPs that they may not be able to support the new government. The government only has a majority of three, including the DUP, so only a very few rebels is enough for it to lose its majority.

“One possible scenario is that a group of Conservative MPs is so concerned about the winning candidate that they declare their withdrawal of support immediately the result of the leadership contest is known – ie, before the new PM is appointed. This would pose a serious dilemma for the Queen and those advising her, because it would not be clear that the new Conservative leader could command confidence.”

Apologies for posting the above twice

M0nica I agree with you completely. One interesting point is that the facts you stated have been mentioned before in different threads over the last couple of weeks but still people ignore them and talk about his charisma and how he'll get the job done. When it comes to Boris Johnson many people live in fantasy land which I don't understand.

M0nica I agree with you completely. One interesting point is that the facts you stated have been mentioned before in different threads over the last couple of weeks but still people ignore them and talk about his charisma and how he'll get the job done. When it comes to Boris Johnson many people live in fantasy land which I don't understand.

My honest opinion......" we're doomed we're all doomed" (curtesy of Dads Army, which according to the writer of "Victoria" the constant re-runs were responsible for the leave camp winning the referendum????)

what no one seems to take onboard is tat Boris Johnson has already held one of the three key government posts - that of Foreign Secretary and in that role he was a complete disaster.

He has been described as one of the worst Foreign Secretaries we have had in over a century. In that post he committed inumerable gaffes that caused offence to other countries and endangered the lives of British nationals

One of his many gaffes, if one can use such a trivial word was his description of Nazanin Zaghri-Ratcliffe as 'teaching journalism' in Iran when all she did was visit her parents on holiday. I understand that until his comment the FO were close to negotiating her release. We know what has happened since.

If he was an incompetent Foreign Secretary, how can anyone imagine he would be a competent Prime Minister?

How much greater is the chance that this oaf will do serious damage to this country if he becomes Prime Minister.

I don't care who does what to whom, as long as they don't frighten the horses. A variant of a comment made by Mrs Patrick Campbell c. 1910.

However, I do object to politicians doing one thing and then preaching about family values, although there's not much preaching going on at the moment.

We have spoken to quite a few people in the past 7 days on our boat trip through France: they love Boris.
One night we were tied up alongside a barge full of Americans: they just love his voice ?

someone not something!

Not sure I understand why calling him BJ is funny.,
Perhaps I'm missing something.

Despising something just because they are rich is prejudiced, it's his other attributes I find worrying.
Corbyn was 'a rich boy' too

I have to laugh at people referring to Boris as B.J!!! ?. He’s a despicable rich boy.

Thanks for the link, whitewave, it is very funny!

The New York Times has published an even more damning opinion piece by sociologist William Davies, who claims that a “fanatical sect has hijacked British politics”.

Ha ha ha, that is so ironic - do they not realise?

However, the Australian Financial Review’s Hans van Leeuwen argues that Johnson’s “broader charm and charisma” marks him out from Trump.
“The Left may loathe him, but he can win over the uncommitted with his plain speech and political stardust,” van Leeuwen says.

The Australians do like plain speech but there is plain speech and then there is foot in mouth syndrome.

I don't think European leaders will be laughing at his private life - after all, where France, Italy etc leads in adultery, the UK seems to be following!

I think they should judge him on his political record.
And vote for Hunt

Every responsible MP should be concerned to do their primary duty never to damage the United Kingdom should vote to Revoke Article 50

Hmm. Varian you are biased.

Many, many people see exiting the EU as a positive move in the right direction and see a brighter future for the UK once we are freed of the (expensive) shackles which tie us to Brussels.

Do not forget many of the doom-laden forecasts made by Remainer economists after the referendum have proved to be completely wrong and way off the mark. Even Bank of England governor Mark Carney's forecasts were embarrassingly inaccurate.

I imagined Remainers had ditched their crystal balls. No one knows for sure what the future holds. Do you have faith in the Euro, for example? Is it about to collapse? Shouldn't that be a guide if you want to tie us to the EU? Would you be happy for us to bail out the Euro and the economies of EU member states which falter?

Lots to consider.

That’s the least of their criticisms and purely something to be laughed about.

But this is our prime minister we are talking about

Surely not on the incapacity to keep it in his trousers Whitewavemark2 - they wouldn’t be that hypocritical.....
Oh wait....

BJ's adultery is the least of his failings.

His narcissism, his laziness, his inability to understand detailed issues, his buffonery (whether or not it is just a clownish act), his sense of entitlement, his lack of principles, his lack of empathy or compassion for others, his careless disregard for the Union, but most of all the fact that he is a habitual liar of the first order - all these thing should automatically disqualify him from becoming our PM.

On the other hand, quite a lot of Tory Party voters seem to think this appalling person could beat Corbyn in a GE and therefore be the saviour of their dying party.

Decent British people look on and despair at how low our politics have sunk.

Um! I think you will find that they are judging him on his incapacity to keep it in his trousers and sheer buffoonery, as well as his total incompetence both as foreign secretary and other jobs he’s failed at.

£64million is gathering dust somewhere.