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Why do Conservatives like Johnson?

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Alexa Wed 19-Jun-19 09:06:02

Most of the Conservative MPs are intelligent , I must suppose. I am not being sarcastic, I truly dont know why they want Johnson.

Greciangirl Wed 19-Jun-19 14:34:56

Just reading today, the lady languishing in prison Nazanin Ratcliffe who Boris Johnson promised to obtain her release whilst he was foreign secretary.
Apparently, he has now washed his hands of her case.
In other words, he just couldn’t care less about her.

Chongolo74 Wed 19-Jun-19 14:35:32

Most people like Boris because he walks like a man, talks like a man and acts like a man.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 19-Jun-19 14:38:55

chong???????

HildaW Wed 19-Jun-19 14:50:06

Time was when most politicians had an education of some sort....went into a job...of some sort and made a decent fist of said job...then they realised they wanted to make a difference or follow a cause and found themselves in a union or joining a political party or movement.....this lead to an interest in politics and then a move towards a position in politics...and so on.
Today....its all about deciding they fancy a career in politics because it looks like its the door to power, money and influence so at University they study politics, Economics perhaps a bit of history and bobs your uncle they are in politics to see just how much they can get out of it.
Yes, am fully aware I sound a bitter old cynic but the number of politicians who impress me with their integrity and abilities to actually get anything done is miniscule. In fact I have pretty much stopped paying any attention (except for voting ) ....they are all so fickle and out for what they can gain. None of them stick to any cause or point of view....they just chop and change with the winds!
As for Boris....well he is probably the worst of the lot.
Many years ago when I was part of the PTA we used to say that anyone who showed real aggression and demanded to be in charge (it happened now and again - some lippy Mum with an axe to grind) was probably the last person you would want in charge. Instead we would look around for the calm competent one who had been good in a crisis and had got stuff done....I say no more.

Barmeyoldbat Wed 19-Jun-19 14:55:19

The only good thing about Boris becoming PM is that it will bring the government down and a much needed election take place. That is my belief.

Esmerelda Wed 19-Jun-19 15:19:42

That's a really tough question Alexa. He lies, he cheats, he's morally bankrupt, he has no principles and he only cares for one thing ... and that is Boris. He doesn't care about his party, he doesn't care about the country and he certainly doesn't care about the people. Truth, honour and justice are things he has no familiarity with but maybe his colleagues think he can get through on his supposed charisma. Personally he makes my flesh crawl ... God help us.

sarahellenwhitney Wed 19-Jun-19 15:34:09

Don't give a who as long as they get on with the job and get us out on the day we are supposed ?to get out.
If that can be achieved ????? we can deal with what's to follow.

JohnD Wed 19-Jun-19 15:37:41

The last P.M. turned out to be a complete liar and very stubborn, not listening to anyone, so why expect anything to change. As for branding B.J. a liar etc, that description fits the majority of the members in the House of Commons

Anrol Wed 19-Jun-19 16:22:09

IMO There are lots of of behind closed doors machinations at Westminster we are not party to..... one can only guess why BJ is winning this vote. I believe there is a lot of who knows who; who went to what school; I’ll pat your back if you pat mine amongst MP’s.

Elvive Wed 19-Jun-19 16:27:38

I'll let you shag my pig's head and so on.

Happiyogi Wed 19-Jun-19 16:35:03

Tillybelle I'm a big fan of words too, so I don't mind an opportunity to learn!

I felt that to use immoral would feel like me sitting in judgement of Johnson, whereas I was using amoral in the sense of someone who doesn't know or care if his actions are right or wrong - a person who has no conscience or scruples.

I don't know his mindset or why he behaves as he does. I only know that I consider his behaviour over many years renders him unfit for the high office he craves. And I think that's the nub of it - he's grasping for something he desperately wants for his own aggrandisement, rather than for the opportunity to give, and serve his country.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 19-Jun-19 16:36:37

Ian Blackford on top form today.

Calling out Johnson for the racist he is.

Day6 Wed 19-Jun-19 16:45:57

Perhaps they want to watch him "crash and burn"!!!

There could be a case made for that perverse form of schadenfruede I think GG13

I hold that the MP to succeed May as PM could have a short-lived career.

I am surprised anyone put themselves forward for the post. I'd have happily sat back and let the other power-crazed suckers go for this one. grin Now is not a good time to be PM.

I imagine that Corbyn and Cable are pleased to let Brexit wranglings be the preserve of the Conservative Party.

On the other hand Boris (because there is no doubt he will replace May imo) could storm it. He could trample over all the soft negotiating that has gone before (which favoured the EU) and get us out to a thankful majority of the electorate. ("From zero to hero!" as my grandson exclaimed the other day.)

Brexit could be his equivalent of Thatcher's Falklands victory.

Or Boris could meet his own Waterloo if he plays it badly.

These times provide a spectator sport regarding the rise and fall of politicians, if nothing else.

Day6 Wed 19-Jun-19 16:49:09

Calling out Johnson for the racist he is

Ah, but Jezza and many of his Labour comrades are a bit suspect too, aren't they?

Lilyflower Wed 19-Jun-19 16:49:19

Boris is the opposite of all those mealy mouthed, bureaucratic, data driven, administrative, managerial, Common Purpose, triangulating, ‘liberal’, we know better than you elitists who have berated, insulted and belittled us for years.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 19-Jun-19 16:53:39

So you say day6 but the difference is that I have heard Johnson and his racist muttering, but I have never heard Corbyn utter a single racist remark. Have you?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 19-Jun-19 16:54:10

lilyflower ???

Day6 Wed 19-Jun-19 16:55:39

Lilyflower yes, it may be in BJs favour that he cannot be 'groomed'.

You are right. Most MPs have swallowed the conformist's "How to be bland and make no impression at all" handbook.

Hymnbook Wed 19-Jun-19 16:56:15

Has anyone been watching years and years on BBC 1 on a Tuesday evening. Clowns and monsters. Frightening to compare fact to fiction.

Day6 Wed 19-Jun-19 17:01:50

We have seen Corbyn's misogeny in the house, and have read reams about his 'forgetful' slips in supporting Jew-hating activities though, haven't we whitewave?

Not only that, he's been an apologist for Russia and he supports terrorist groups and the enemies of the UK.

Nice.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 19-Jun-19 17:08:22

Oh dear I’ve just realised that you are up to your old tricks again day6

whataboutery still alive and kicking.

Elvive Wed 19-Jun-19 17:16:44

Oh God here we go....

I don't like X

Oh but Y is much worse.

I don't like either of them!!!

Cindersdad Wed 19-Jun-19 17:30:54

I cannot understand how anyone could elect a proven Liar as party leader, Only Rory Stewart appears to have any real integrity.

As for Labour until they ditch Jeremy Corbyn thye too are doomed!

We all know Brexit is dreadfully bad for Britain and it is a complete mystery why more MPs fail to say so.

Sooner or later they will be seen for what they are! The country will find it hard to forgive them.

jmor Wed 19-Jun-19 17:39:11

I totally agree with dragonfly46.

Day6 Wed 19-Jun-19 17:48:34

Oh for some originality, eh whitewave.

Bingo! You use "whataboutery" frequently. I am surprised you haven't accused posters of 'pearl-clutching' yet.

I daresay it will come. hmm

#leftwingpredictability