Tommy Robinson

And it's " some " of the perpetrators who will have TR's guts for garters if/when he's sentenced. Will prison officers " hold back " I wonder ?

Lessismore, my experience was the police and social work staff were more focussed on trying and failing to engage the children in making ‘safer lifestyle choices’ than on the ethnicity of the men involved.
The fact these were vulnerable children being sexually exploited and abused in an organised way in so many towns and cities was not given the priority, money or staff needed to investigate and take effective action.

Hero of the day- a traffic warden slaps a parking fine on TR's bus he parked at the front of the Old Bailey - and walks away laughing his head off and saying he just loves his job some days. Priceless.

I thought the police didn't want to be involved because they were afraid of being called racist. Political correctness had them cowed.

Yes Gonegirl, that's the way its been reported but, those of us on the front line saw it differently. Not saying there wasn't some anxiety about the fact the perpetrators were all largely Muslim men from Pakistani backgrounds but, the main issue was that the children involved were seen as 'making risky / poor lifestyle choices'. That was the focus all too often, rather than the police doing what we pay them to do, to prevent and investigate crime. Same for the local authorities - tasked with protecting children. They tried to do that by attempting to tell these children they were making bad choices, rather than ensuring the criminals were investigated and prosecuted. Of course, you can ask the police to investigate but you can't make them.

I'm glad you have provided some first hand informaton Iam64. Having read the detailed report that was released some time ago, I have made similar points, but since you have more direct and expert knowledge of these sorts of issues, perhaps people will pay more attention to your input.

There were several examples in the report of police being fully aware of what was happening - for example, they found girls with much older Asian men late at night in cars, in houses - some in a dazed and inebriated state - and did nothing. They instead treated what was happening as consensual, whereas a minor cannot be deemed to give consent and anyone who has any form of sexual activity with a minor is committing a crime.

If there is clear evidence of sexual activity - and some girls even went to the police and asked for help, saying they were being used and abused but were frightened of these men - then there were valid grounds which would suplport a decision to investigate further. But this never happened and there was certainly some evidence that the police thought these young women - some of whom were in care and had troubled histories - were to blame for their treatment at the hands of these men. When the whole thing finally came to the surface, it was all too easy to blame "political correctness" for their inaction, and that sort of narrative was preferable to other employees who did nothing also.

Of course, these gangs committed disgusting criminal acts that deserved severe punishment but their blatantly criminal behaviour could have been stopped many years before. Given that these young women and older Asian men were very visible in the town centre at night, it must have appeared to these men that the police had no interest in what was happening and no intention to investigate their activities.

Paedophiles - whether individuals acting on their own or in groups - exist in all areas of society, even in those that appear outwardly "respectable", as I'm sure some young people could attest.

There has been little coverage in our mainstream media of the sex scandal in the US where a wealthy banker and his "recruits" are accused of identifying and trafficking vulnerable, often underage, young women from the US and around the world to sexually service men from the most senior echelons of society - politicians, senior academics, and even a member of our royal family have been implicated. Charges were brought some years ago against this wealthy banker but a plea bargain was made and he was only found guilty of "procuring a minor for prostitution" (some have pointed out that a minor cannot give consent and cannot therefore be described as a prostitute.) For this crime he was given 13 months in a private wing of a prison, with an allowance that he could leave the prison throughout the day to attend his office. Even though this is happening in another country, given the scale of this alleged paedophile ring, the people allegedly involved and the alleged corrupt practices in covering up these activites, why is there so little coverage here?

We know that some people are not what they appear - seemingly respectable people like well known politicians, businessmen, celebrities, etc or people in positions of trust, like priests, youth workers, sports trainers, etc. have been found to have committed appalling offences against young people. But we do not then say all priests, youth workers, sports trainers, etc, etc., are part of a community, the whole of hich is aware of, but quietly accepts, child abuse.

Did the senior religious leaders , the senior football officials,etc, etc, fail to report these issues to the authorities because of "political correctness"? I don't think so. They did nothing because it was less problematic for them personally and for the organisation's reputation to pretend it wasn't happening.

So - they were actually blaming the children?! What have the lifestyle choices of victims in any crime got to do with the crime being carried out? It's like blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt.

Pathetic policing.

(that was to Iam )

Wonder if any of the 'high-ups' in the police lost their jobs. And their pensions.

High-ups in the police losing their jobs ?? That'll be the day !

Those guys retire early before anything comes to light, complete with pensions and pats on the back.

I believe several times girls in a distressed state turned up at a farmers place on Saddleworth Moor, but he didnt report it.

The whole thing is appalling.

True Lessismore. The awful experiences these girl had has highlighted the neglect of our children

Sorry but can I just add, there were a number of males abused too. I am off this thread as it is too distressing.

TR is an idiot for nealy ruining this court case.

Yes, boys were involved, I hope I mentioned that. I talked about children meaning girls and boys.

Femi
@Femi_Sorry
· Jul 9
Tommy Robinson wants to become a refugee!!!
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Johno
You don't need to actually say you support Y-L - your attitude screams that you do.

I've spent 2 years following and reading up on this individual and possibly know more about him than most.
He is a domestic abuser, a cocaine fiend, a serial liar, a grifter and has been found guilty and served time for lesser crimes as well. As I said in my last post, a cousin of mine has personal experience of his violent behaviour, yet some still treat him as a god and will have nothing said against him.

No one is considering themselves a 'virtue warrior', just that he has committed a crime and must serve his punishment. He often tells people who come here from abroad that if they don't like our laws they should leave the country - perhaps he needs to stop calling the pot black and do the same. If he can't do the time etc....

I haven't used swear words, so don't try using strawman arguments on me.

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Lots and lots of swearing here.

That video was funny.

Brilliant and funny video and straight to the point! Fake journalist writes to fake president!

Report today that TR supporters have/are attacking and smashing the permanent remain camp outside of parliament.

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Can I suggest that those of us who detest this thug, and deplore the attempts by some posters to excuse his behaviour follow the example set in New Zealand.

Cycling, you will get a nasty message from HQ now. You are not allowed to say such things.

What am I not allowed to say? You haven’t made that clear. Did I touch a nerve?