Tommy Robinson

Your jolly friend with the made up name ( he is no Tommy) jeopordised the case against grooming gangs??

" Rampant racism ?"-------that's a new one ! How do you make that out ?? When you've only been here for 5 minutes, koff koff.

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Suziewoozie
I think this site allows contributions to any thread. One of the purposes I think is to inform and educate in addition to general debate.
My initial question was to understand the hatred towards this person. My impression is that there is the common sheeple response to this person, one ‘virtuous’ person says he is despicable because the media says so and it makes them feel good, so other sheeple have to do the same. I have observed less outrage expressed for multiple rapists and child molesters. No one has yet told me that he has been convicted of any heinous crime. I have since conducted a little research and find he actually has multi ethnic acquaintances who like him want the wrongdoers in their communities confronting and addressing. The whole grooming issue potentially could have been dealt with years ago maybe if people had been listened to instead of being called racist or facist. There are wrong people in all communities, not weeding them out could and sometimes does result in the whole community being regarded with suspicion. Look what damage the grooming gangs have done to the Pakistani community and Radical Muslims have done to those Muslims who live the faith in peace.
It is inevitable that there will be those on this thread who will claim I must be a sympathiser, if they too feel virtuous doing so, so be it.
Lessismore
I would take more instruction in the psychic arts if I were you...you are way off the mark and not funny.

Suzie some of us would consider convictions for violence and fraud fairly heinous.

Joelsnan - Very well said. Sheeple is the word. There’s an awful lot of virtue signalling going on here and the typical attempts to stifle debate. I just wonder why it’s always the same ‘side’ that get abusive. I live in a multi ethnic area and have many Pakistani and muslim neighbours. Believe me they hate these gangs which, incidentally, are all over the country. There is a problem within their culture and it needs to be addressed. Turning the cheek and hoping it will go away because we feel uncomfortable isn’t the answer. It needs to be faced and addressed. I haven’t paid any particular attention to Tommy Robinson but on the few occasions I have heard him speak I have agreed with him. If the flock on this thread don’t like that tough!

Joel I think you are being very insulting indeed to those of us who have criticised Tommy Robinson’s behaviour by calling us sheeplike and virtuous, saying he is despicable because the media says so. Just give your head a wobble. I have followed his ‘career’ for years and am also fully aware of all the issues around the grooming gangs. It is precisely because the trials were so important that his behaviour in endangering them was so serious. I also ( and doubt I am alone in this) doubt his motives for his espousing this cause. He is a well documented racist and has never expressed any concerns at all for all the other child sexual abuse in our society- churches, football clubs, schools where the perpetrators have been white and where, for years , the issues were known about but ignored, swept under the carpet and children let down.
It’s good that now more and more perpetrators are being brought to justice and anyone who puts these trials in danger is despicable. To do it for racist motives is even more so,
Once again, I’m not being virtuous, sheeplike or following what the media say I can think for myself as I’m sure can most of the others on this thread.

This post will do for you as well tickingbird

The BBC did the same as him. Why are they not in court? YOU are next in this fascist society. The police are politicised. The MSM is totally leftie bonkers. It is an absolute fact - on record - ON OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT ENQUIRY RECORDS that the Police - Social Sevices - Officials - and councillors covered up this most serious of crimes in the history of UK. Thousands f young girls raped and tortured...THOUSANDS. Not one comment from any of you about this.

Vile person he is anti everything I believe in, he is an ignorant racist, a small man trying to big himself up with a heartful of hate, he doesn’t have an ounce of decency in him and I m afraid anyone who admires him and his cronies doesn’t either, I would like to see him behind bars permanently
gonegirl I like your directness in the middle of your three posts I couldn’t have put it better myself

"children let down" !!!!!??? Oh really, they were "let down". I suppose Dr Shipman's patients were diagnosed?? Jimmy Saville's victims "fixed". Reckless negligence and endangerment by the social services police et al. Is not letting the children down? it is criminal negligence which leads to their being raped over 20 years. Evidence showed that some police actually assisted the incidents/crimes. THis is a major scandal of the highest order and no one is on the end of any vitriol except Tommy Robinson. What is the matter with people today??

Good grief. It seems a number of you ladies and gents are happy to be indoctrinated by the mainstream media, choosing to believe the rubbish you are drip fed. Have a look at actual footage of TR outside the court. See what and how he said it. See for yourself that he asked police in attendance if he was ‘ok to do this?’ Do some research yourselves and you will see he reported only what was in the public domain already. This particular group of all Muslim paedophiles had been already found guilty. There was no trial to jeopardise. These gangs still operate countrywide. They see no wrong in grooming and raping non-Muslim children and young women.. I for one applaud TR for exposing this cancer within our society. Wake up people. Look further than the corrupt mainstream news to see what’s actually happening in this once-great country. TR only did what is every day practice to every journalist. However it seems that TR is persecuted for the same thing. Ask Kate Adie. She was brave enough to say how uncomfortable this makes her! He asked questions. Not aggressively -have a look. The fact that these Muslim child rapists claim to have have ‘suffered anxiety ‘ from the question ‘how do you feel about your conviction’ is totally ridiculous. They should feel so much more than anxiety for every minute they live. Wake up people. Have a look around you.

And as for ignorance? You are ignorant if you don’t seek information. Have a look at the charitable things TR is involved with. Your are all capable of sitting in your ivory towers in judgement of others that you know nothing about.

Where do all these new posters come from when we are talking about far right issues? It’s weird. Is there a department of “keeping an eye out for any comments that threaten the March of the right”? Once they’ve come in and rampaged around for a while, they then seem to disappear in a puff of smoke. It has happened periodically over the years. The last major infestation was during the referendum. We had some really bizarre posters then, but come referendum- poof- gone.

There doesn’t seem to be the equivalent from the far left does there?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46448299

Just to remind some posters why Nigel Farage left UKIP.

Good point Whitewave.

BlueBelle seeing as you like directness of the kind expressed by GoneGirl I suggest you do exactly as she suggests!!

That applies to you too Suziewooziewoo.

I haven’t paid any particular attention to Tommy Robinson but on the few occasions I have heard him speak I have agreed with him

Which points do you agree with?

Four days after Robinson was originally jailed for contempt of court, defence lawyers launched an application to discharge the jury – a move that would have forced a lengthy retrial or ended the grooming case completely

Please don't preach about violated girls. They very nearly saw the whole thing dismissed.

Tommy is a great guy. I love the thread which wants him shot. Oh my god?? Let me guess.... you love everyone of every colour and ethnic origin.. you will not accept any form of hate speech and get triggered if you hear it.. yet YOU want Tommy Robinson SHOT!!!!! If i dont laugh I will cry.

I am also very suspicious as to why so many Y-L supporters seem to have appeared from nowhere and jumped on this thread. How anyone can defend him is beyond me...he claims to be a "journalist", yet clearly has no knowledge of the law as regards reporting of court cases, which is taught to even the most junior of real journalists. If he really wished to expose the grooming of children (which, by the way, many posters on here have already condemned) - then why would he deliberately jeopardise the court case? His "supporters" on here accuse anyone who disagrees with him as being "sheeple" and being brainwashed by the mainstream media. I suggest they take a good long hard look in the mirror...

Johno You have asked on this thread and the other one whether GNs know why EDL was formed, yet have not replied when asked to enlighten us. I know why it was formed but wonder whether you actually do.

Well said Blondiescot and a welcome antidote to some of the total and distasteful tosh spouted by the likes of johno.

Suziewoozie - Farage did not leave UKIP. Farage is a placeman created to stop UKIP from becoming a major force in opposition. Farage publicly slated and defamed Gerard Batten is a set-up by the Establishment. You see, if you create an opposition you can control - Farage BP - you destroy the opposition you may not be able to control > UKIP. The MSM was in on it... they lambasted UKIP and actually invented stuff to shut UKIP down while at the same time boosting Farage and BP at every turn of every day. Farage will sell out and will get his seat in the H of Lords.

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